Legends of Nascar #1 label questions 0

[comxdlr]

I have different Legends of Nascar #1's .. I notice that you have 2 different graded in the census.. but have questions based on this:

There are 3 different "non-hologram" versions:  1st Print   $1.50 cover    2nd print  $2.00 cover     3rd Print $3 cover and 4 Maxx Race cards inside.  ( I have some of all of these and we bought all of them directly from Vortex Comics as an official Dealer...)  so the questions are:

1. Both the 1st Print and 2nd print books have November 1990 in the copyright line inside the book, the 3rd print (that has '2nd print' January 1991 in the copyright line) but the only options for the book in the submission for is 1/91 and 6/92.  So if I submit this as a 11/90 version and put in that it is 2nd print, does that show up on the label?   and when I submit the $1.50 (11/90) 1st print books will it state 1st print?

I guess maybe just let me ask it like this.. can we designate on the labels ? 1st 2nd 3rd print?   i know the 2nd print says 1st print and the 3rd print says 2nd print.. (OR the $1.50's were 'test run' and then 1st and 2nd print.. i guess?? ) but it really should show that there are 3 different runs of the book.

Thoughts?

sorry .. brain isnt allowing me to ask this in a good way.. so please email me with questions.. I can send pictures etc if needed

 

[comxdlr]

^{I also have a slab from my last order that came back with the book in backwards.. would like to included that in my next order or something to get it back and have the book flipped around if possible..  what are my options on that?}

[Jennifer F.]

Good morning, I have checked with our graders regarding the Legends of Nascar question you had.  They advised that 1st prints are the default label, but 2nd and 3rd's will be identified and notated on the label. They would ask that when you send those in, to please notate which printing it is to help the grader identify it as it looks like we have not done all the printings of this particular book. 

Regarding your book that was slabbed backwards, please email that information and those pictures to our customer service department and they can send you a shipping label to send that back as well as instructions.  You can email us at submissions@cgccomics.com.

Thanks!

 

[comxdlr]

On 8/4/2020 at 11:08 AM, Jennifer F. said:

Good morning, I have checked with our graders regarding the Legends of Nascar question you had.  They advised that 1st prints are the default label, but 2nd and 3rd's will be identified and notated on the label. They would ask that when you send those in, to please notate which printing it is to help the grader identify it as it looks like we have not done all the printings of this particular book. 

Regarding your book that was slabbed backwards, please email that information and those pictures to our customer service department and they can send you a shipping label to send that back as well as instructions.  You can email us at submissions@cgccomics.com.

Thanks!

 

Jennifer thanks!

I know this is a confusing one, but it is incorrect in the CGC Census.  There are 4 different 'variants' of the #1.   The one you have as 2nd print.. in the Census with the MAXX Race cards.. is not 2nd print its 3rd.   This is kind of the problem Im trying to iron out so i dont have to ship books back and forth to get the right label

 

1. $1.50 (First print issued first) November 1990 Copyright

2. 2.00 (2nd print, issued within the same month as the one above, does say 1st print inside (ERROR))  November 1990 Copyright

3. 3.00 (3rd print, issued 3rd, includes 4 1990 MAXX Race cards inserted) says 2nd print (ERROR) Jan 1991 Copyright

4. 5.00 Hologram version (This technically is a 4th print, has a hologram of Bill's car on the front)  June 1992 Printing (does not say 1st /2nd or 3rd)

I get you dont want to redo all of the "2nd print" ones that are out there (which are 3rd prints in actuality..) so I was trying to figure out how to do that but.. its really going to be something your team decides on.. as i get it affects previous slabs.. I'll just hold off on sending anything and maybe we can get this figured out   I have several of each and want to get one of all 4 done.. but having 2 say 2nd print and 2 say 1st print is kinda defeating the purpose   would like to see the 1st, 2nd, 3rd (and hologram whatever it is.. 4th or 1st either way.

 

[comxdlr]

 

20 hours ago, Will78 said:

Don't take this the wrong way, but why should CGC take your word for it? Do you have any documentation to back up what you say?

understood.. ok so agreed. Though i was the owner of one of the larger comic shops during this time in the middle of NASCAR country I do understand that this could be one of those things you make up.

but .. 1. the dates..   1st print is in 1990.. 3rd print is just after that with 11/91, hologram printing came out 6/92.. (so this in and of itself.. should lead to my basic "story" being true.. )  as the prices also rise from 

1st Print ($1.50, to 2nd print 2.00, to 3rd print 3.00 to the hologram printed a year later at $5)

For those that dont know much about the "Bible" for comics Overstreet's Comic Price guide that has listed comics for years and years and years..  I will upload a picture of the Legends of Nascar section.. this has been in the book since probably 1993 like this.. so it is not something that isnt known if you are a dealer in the comic community and have been had a comic shop open in the south where these books were widely owned/sold.   MAXX race cards was litterally headquartered within about an hour away from our place, until UpperDeck bought them out mid-1990s.  .. Again. this really doesnt matter if you dont know me.. but the stuff that I am sharing is available if you research it.    Which I would hope that someone in the business of slabbing comics would do.. Here is the listing from the most current Overstreet Comic Price Guide.   For those that dont know.. it's issued once a year since 1969/1970 ?.. this is the 49th edition so somewhere in there.    I will be glad to send other information if needed.. I ran a LCS for 20 years, so some of this I experienced first hand.. yeah maybe not the new stuff... I dont expect anyone to take my word for it.. but I tried to give enough information that would allow a company in the business of knowing some stats about the books they are grading/slabbing to look up things and verify what I am saying.   Hopefully there's an Overstreet somewhere in the GCG building.. I'd be shocked if there wasnt.  I know its hard to think of something like that being printed out in a book form this day and age.. but thank goodness they still print things.. digital comics are darn tough to slab.   

Edited August 7, 2020 by comxdlr