Empir3 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) What do you guys think the grade on this would be ? The water only goes through the first page or so . Edited September 2, 2020 by Empir3 littledoom and Galen130 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Are the staples rusty? Any migration? I always find these books tricky to grade. If the water damage wasn't there, I think you would be at 6.0 / 6.5. Now, I've learned that water damage is hammered pretty hard. It's on the bc / fc and interior. I think its going to be a 3.5ish. I'll be curious to hear what others have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KCOComics said: water damage is hammered pretty hard. I'm sure there are those of us that have seen textbook 9.2s relegated to between 7.0 to 8.0 findings due to a moisture ring that's barely perceptible and only on the surface. Those back cover corner stains go right through the entire book, affecting the pages and front cover also as far as the image indicates. These type of stains are typically seen on basement stored books. Books that spent long term storage in moist environs, though this one looks to be most greatly impacted by one event of seepage; exposure to something that spilled and then leeched into the paper closest to the spill. At any rate, a shame because it's a beautiful DD1 with fresh cover whites, not having been stored long term in a hot environment. I'd estimate the overall grade to be 3.0. On the open market, this book will bring twice the amount of the usual 3.0, usually with a huge accumulation of flaws. Creases cris-crossing the covers, tape repairs, splits, pieces out, chips, ragged edges, etc. Edited September 2, 2020 by James J Johnson Buzzetta, KCOComics and 1950's war comics 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, James J Johnson said: These type of stains are typically seen on basement stored books. Books that spent long term storage in moist environs, though this one looks to be most greatly impacted by one event of seepage; exposure to something that spilled and then leeched into the paper closest to the spill. At any rate, a shame because it's a beautiful DD1 with fresh cover whites, not having been stored long term in a hot environment. I'd estimate the overall grade to be 3.0. Agree with everything here. The silver lining in this case is, the FC looks great and it will look great in s slab. You rescued it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empir3 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: I'm sure there are those of us that have seen textbook 9.2s relegated to between 7.0 to 8.0 findings due to a moisture ring that's barely perceptible and only on the surface. Those back cover corner stains go right through the entire book, affecting the pages and front cover also as far as the image indicates. These type of stains are typically seen on basement stored books. Books that spent long term storage in moist environs, though this one looks to be most greatly impacted by one event of seepage; exposure to something that spilled and then leeched into the paper closest to the spill. At any rate, a shame because it's a beautiful DD1 with fresh cover whites, not having been stored long term in a hot environment. I'd estimate the overall grade to be 3.0. On the open market, this book will bring twice the amount of the usual 3.0, usually with a huge accumulation of flaws. Creases cris-crossing the covers, tape repairs, splits, pieces out, chips, ragged edges, etc. Would getting it cleaned and pressed help it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Empir3 said: Would getting it cleaned and pressed help it at all? There are a few things going on with the front cover that a press could clean up, but in this case it won't improve the grade IMO. What brings it down to that 3.0 range is the water stain, which a press and dry clean won't help. Edited September 2, 2020 by KCOComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empir3 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, KCOComics said: There are a few things going on with the front cover that a press could clean up, but in this case it won't improve the grade IMO. What brings it down to that 3.0 range is the water stain, which a press and dry clean won't help. Ok thanks this is my first venture into anything like this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Empir3 said: Ok thanks this is my first venture into anything like this . NP - it's a good place to gather info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Nice colors on the cover! As someone already mentioned, whatever the grade due to the water stain, it may fetch a premium over a non-water stained book of same grade due to the eye appeal. Thanks for sharing and GLWT. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 G/VG (3.0) 1950's war comics and littledoom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Empir3 said: Would getting it cleaned and pressed help it at all? There's a reason why our resident pressing wizard, JoeyPost, hates stains. They infuriate him. Can't say I blame him. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Empir3 said: What do you guys think the grade on this would be ? The water only goes through the first page or so . I would be happy to own this book KCOComics and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3.0 IMO. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 regardless of grade, with that front cover it would presently extremely nice in a CGC slab FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 At worst, 2.5 but I think 3.0 makes more sense. Nice presenting copy, I usually avoid stained books but this one would be one I would be happy to have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3.0, maybe 3.5 - 4.0 if you get lucky with the results of a cleaning and press 9.4 If submitted next “Cracks-day” to a competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empir3 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 10 hours ago, KCOComics said: NP - it's a good place to gather info. What would you guys offer for the book? I haven’t purchased it yet , was trying to figure out a fair price . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Empir3 said: What would you guys offer for the book? I haven’t purchased it yet , was trying to figure out a fair price . My budget for this would be between $500-700. My history on raw sales for this book in this estimated grade isn't very long, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Funnybooks Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Buzzetta said: 3.0, maybe 3.5 - 4.0 if you get lucky with the results of a cleaning and press 9.4 If submitted next “Cracks-day” to a competitor. Exactly Buzzetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
