CGC Pressing = big mistake! 2 2

[Jeffro.]

1 hour ago, miraclemet said:

2 hours ago, Jeffro. said:

I once pressed a comic so many times, it became a single sheet of paper. Lesson learned

do it a few more times and it'll become a tree. Fact.

The circle of life is complete

[The Lions Den]

4 hours ago, comicginger1789 said:

How long were you "uninvolved" in comics? If it has been since pre 2000, a LOT has changed. And, no disrespect, but it sounds like you just jumped right in assuming you knew a 9.8 from a 9.6. You believed pressing would guarantee the former and you sent off books you paid up for and that only 9.8 would give you a great return on (that or you are just a die hard 9.8 collector).

I have been collecting for the past 15 years. I have been familiar with CGC since I first learned about it back in 2005. I havbe bought countless grading guides and looked at images. I read stuff on these forums for several years before signing up because I felt (somewhat) knowledgeable enough to have a convo and hold my own with regards to grading and overall comic knowledge. And you know what? I STILL suck at determining 9.6 from 9.8.

Granted it is not so much a focal point for me but if I were someone jumping back in after a 5-10 year break from comics, I would make sure I get some second opinions on a book (and no, not a friend or two, I mean people like you have here who are more than happy to give ya a dose of reality). I would be willing to bet enough eyes would see some minor flaws on the books sent in (corners, spine ticks, interior issues....people tend to only grade the front and back but CGC actually opens the book). 

As for CGC presser and their abilities. They have been in the game for almost 20 years. No one has come close to dethroning them and unless they see a serious dip in quality, I cannot see it happening in the near future. If I am to trust my money in CGC, I feel 95% sure they will get it right with regards to properly handling and grading my book. The other 5% is the human error that NO company can avoid. 

So the questions becomes do you think both your books fall into the 96% or 5%? And if the latter, is it worth it to pay for them to take another look?

The difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 is usually pretty small...

[Domo Arigato]

"They were ugly 10's........but they were 10's"

-- Dylan

 

[kimik]

7 hours ago, 1Cool said:

A ton of people have been saying CGC is very tight right now so it does not take much to have them drop a book down to a 9.6.  But don't fret - 9.6 is the new 9.8!

Grading is the same as it always has been. Unfortunately, the production quality of new books is not. Rumor has it that Marvel's publisher has decided to  employ this individual to finish the books now:

[James J Johnson]

7 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

I suppose if I started my own company, I could give myself all the 9.8's I want!! 

In a billion years of infinite possibilities, no way could that even be possible. 

[James J Johnson]

2 hours ago, Jeffro. said:

The circle of life is complete

It's like a circle

 

 

[ADAMANTIUM]

3 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

In a billion years of infinite possibilities, no way could that even be possible. 

Ye of little faith

[ADAMANTIUM]

I give myself all the 9.8's I can right now, but I try not to by Drek and I'm not starting a co either

 

[James J Johnson]

1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Ye of little faith

I just don't believe it, I won't believe it, I can't believe it, I shan't believe it....

 

[ADAMANTIUM]

2 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

I just don't believe it, I won't believe it, I can't believe it, I shan't believe it....

 

Well you win the persistent award,  I dont think I'd do anything that unethical so your right

 

[Deadpoolica]

[ADAMANTIUM]

[Hollywood1892]

I'll tell you what a big mistake is...

[THE_BEYONDER]

I’m trying to find the lesson here....

[Randall Dowling]

5 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

If you'd like a little more information about the folks currently grading comics at CGC, just open the "About CGC" menu and find the "Our Grading" section. Click "learn more" and it should display all the current graders, as well as one extremely competent consultant.

And then you can look them up on the internet, stalk them IRL, and confront them in a restaurant for why they didn't give you a good grade.  Right?  That's normal behavior.  Also, accuse them of worshipping the devil.  I'm not the only one doing this, am I???

[Coverless 9.8]

16 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

I’m trying to find the lesson here....

He wants a .2, not everybody's !  

[James J Johnson]

1 hour ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

I’m trying to find the lesson here....

Never underestimate the other guy's greed.

[comicquant]

7 hours ago, BlowUpTheMoon said:

Pressed and cleaned.  People are cleaning books that were printed yesterday. 

So....  You don't shower daily?

[allthingskryptonite]

7 hours ago, telerites said:

Similar, no doubt, to:

A convergence space is a set SS together with a relation →\to from FS\mathcal{F}S to SS, where FS\mathcal{F}S is the set of filters on SS; if F→xF \to x, we say that FF converges to xx or that xx is a limit of FF. This must satisfy some axioms:

1. Centred: The principal ultrafilter Fx={A|x∈A}F_x = \{ A \;|\; x \in A \} at xx converges to xx;
2. Isotone: If F⊆GF \subseteq G and F→xF \to x, then G→xG \to x;
3. Directed: If F→xF \to x and G→xG \to x, then some filter contained in the intersection F∩GF \cap G converges to xx. In light of (2), it follows that F∩G→xF \cap G \to x itself. (Strictly speaking, the relation should not be called directed unless also every point is a limit of some filter, but this follows from 1.)

It follows that F→xF \to x if and only if F∩FxF \cap F_x does. Given that, the convergence relation is defined precisely by specifying, for each point xx, a filter of subfilter?s of the principal ultrafilter at xx. (But that is sort of a tongue twister.)

A filter FF clusters at a point xx, written F⇝xF \rightsquigarrow x, if there exists a proper filter GG such that F⊆GF \subseteq G and G→xG \to x.

The definition can also be phrased in terms of nets; a net ν\nu converges to xx if and only if its eventuality filter converges to xx.

The morphisms of convergence spaces are the continuous functions; a function ff between convergence spaces is continuous if F→xF \to x implies that f(F)→f(x)f(F) \to f(x), where f(F)f(F) is the filter generated by the filterbase {f(A)|A∈F}\{f(A) \;|\; A \in F\}. In this way, convergence spaces form a concrete category ConvConv.

Note that the definition of ‘convergence’ varies in the literature; at the extreme end, one could define it as any relation whatsoever from FS\mathcal{F}S (or even from the class of all nets on SS) to SS, but that is so little structure as to be not very useful. An intermediate notion is that of filter space, in which (3) is not required. Here we follow the terminology of Lowen-Colebunders.

Sadly this site is not Latex friendly.

[Artboy99]

I used to think I had a very good grasp of what made a book a 9.8. My submission results would validate that I did indeed have a good grasp of it. Then I buy a CGC 9.8 book and when I get it there are literally more than 10 spine ticks. And some of the spine ticks are gargantuan. It messed with my thoughts on grading and once again I have no idea what a 9.8 book is. So I have a large pile of books I am thinking of sending in, and check them over and I would have rejected a lot of them based on my previous criteria. But since obtaining that ugly 9.8 I have become convinced gradng is completely random and every book I sent could be a 9.8.

It worked CGC! You made me submit more books than I would have. Enjoy my money.

If this Harley Quinn 1 is a 9.8 I own a TON of 9.8 books.

Edited November 5, 2020 by Artboy99