William-James88 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bo1983 said: If u check the CGC submission for both books there almost even on the numbered submitted.I do not no the raw copy numbers there might be more raw of avengers 8? You have to remember that people only send in books that are worth getting graded. So that tells us for a fact that there are way more Avengers 8 out there since no one is sending in their low grade copies (less than 10 sent in the lower grade segments). While we see many lower grade FF 5 being sent in, those are worthwhile. And remember, for every book from 1930-1968, there are way more mid to low grade copies out there than higher grade books. So look at it this way, if both have the same amount sent in, but it is only worthwhile to send in low grade copies of FF 5, then that must mean there are a bunch of low grade Avengers 8 out there. And you can extend that rarity to the higher grades too. In terms of what is sent in, FF5 is rarer than Avengers 8 in the higher grade segments. There are only 34 graded as 8.0 while Avengers 8 has over 100 graded at 8.0. With how much an 8.0 FF 5 would get you, only the die hards with no intention of selling are keeping those raw. All this points to FF 5 being far rarer despite as many graded copies out there. Bo1983 and sconnie_comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, kav said: If we go with first cover equals first app then whats the first lois lane? Thanos? etc. Joker too, that's probably the most famous one. Larryw7, Bo1983 and kav 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, kav said: someimes the market comes to its senses for years Conan 24 was first red sonja now its 23. maybe someday hulk 180 Avengers 8 is like hulk 181 and xmen 266. Hard to beat the cover appearance with big bold letters saying "This is KANG the Conqerer " vs Rama tut in a loincloth Bo1983, William-James88 and kav 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1983 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, William-James88 said: You have to remember that people only send in books that are worth getting graded. So that tells us for a fact that there are way more Avengers 8 out there since no one is sending in their low grade copies (less than 10 sent in the lower grade segments). While we see many lower grade FF 5 being sent in, those are worthwhile. And remember, for every book from 1930-1968, there are way more mid to low grade copies out there than higher grade books. So look at it this way, if both have the same amount sent in, but it is only worthwhile to send in low grade copies of FF 5, then that must mean there are a bunch of low grade Avengers 8 out there. And you can extend that rarity to the higher grades too. In terms of what is sent in, FF5 is rarer than Avengers 8 in the higher grade segments. There are only 34 graded as 8.0 while Avengers 8 has over 100 graded at 8.0. With how much an 8.0 FF 5 would get you, only the die hards with no intention of selling are keeping those raw. All this points to FF 5 being far rarer despite as many graded copies out there. Good point i figured that when I saw the ratio of the high grades. William-James88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolverinex said: Avengers 8 is like hulk 181 and xmen 266. Hard to beat the cover appearance with big bold letters saying "This is KANG the Conqerer " vs Rama tut in a loincloth dont under estimate loin cloths. William-James88, WolverineX and Bo1983 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless icons Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Avengers 8 is going to see big gains, especially if the overall perception among collectors and moviegoers is positive. It's a great looking book, it's still somewhat attainable in most grades for many collectors and it has plenty of room to grow, which makes snagging a copy that much more appealing. Will it outprice FF5? Doubtful but then again, it probably shouldn't. Doom is up there with the Joker as far as I'm concerned, in terms of his accolades as a villain. If Marvel plays this right though, Kang could be a well know name just as Thanos is now. kav, Bo1983, WolverineX and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Hel no. Bo1983 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 9 hours ago, kav said: someimes the market comes to its senses for years Conan 24 was first red sonja now its 23. maybe someday hulk 180 Hulk 180 is taking off now too I’m even seeing 182 getting steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comics4All Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I would take FF 5 all day, every day over Avengers 8! Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Comics4All said: I would take FF 5 all day, every day over Avengers 8! You can take what you want! Comics4All 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1983 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Comics4All said: I would take FF 5 all day, every day over Avengers 8! Both covers are awesome I do have to give the edge the fantastic four cover both villains are great!I like both doom and Kang but Magneto is my Favorite villain!!! Edited June 14, 2021 by Bo1983 kav and Comics4All 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoggyNelson Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I would take either it were a win win situation 👍‼️❤️ WolverineX, Comics4All and kav 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comics4All Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, kav said: You can take what you want! YOU JUST BETTER WATCH YOURSELF! WolverineX and kav 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comics4All Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, FoggyNelson said: I would take either it were a win win situation 👍‼️❤️ This is true! WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconnie_comics Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 As much as I love Avengers 8 and hopes it matches FF 5 in price, I highly doubt it ever will and I don't think it should. I have high hopes for Avengers 8, but, if it did match FF5 in price at some point, I feel like most people, myself included, would trade theirs in a heartbeat for a FF 5, which there aren't enough of to go around. I like Kang more than Doom personally, but I just didn't see that many FF 5s (in any grade) at cons years ago but would see quite a few Avengers 8 at each one (though mostly low-mid grade). That said, I think Kang has the potential for an awesome sci-fi epic across films and I'm looking forward to see anything they do with him in the MCU. WolverineX, Bo1983 and Comics4All 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, NEED MO DAKKA said: As much as I love Avengers 8 and hopes it matches FF 5 in price, I highly doubt it ever will and I don't think it should. I have high hopes for Avengers 8, but, if it did match FF5 in price at some point, I feel like most people, myself included, would trade theirs in a heartbeat for a FF 5, which there aren't enough of to go around. I like Kang more than Doom personally, but I just didn't see that many FF 5s (in any grade) at cons years ago but would see quite a few Avengers 8 at each one (though mostly low-mid grade). That said, I think Kang has the potential for an awesome sci-fi epic across films and I'm looking forward to see anything they do with him in the MCU. Fancy copy! Comics4All and sconnie_comics 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 For a guy with 30th century technology at his disposal he sure is useless. A 10 year old with 30th century tech would defeat any current military force. sconnie_comics and Comics4All 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comics4All Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, kav said: For a guy with 30th century technology at his disposal he sure is useless. A 10 year old with 30th century tech would defeat any current military force. HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH 30TH CENTURY TECHNOLOGY! WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comics4All Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, kav said: For a guy with 30th century technology at his disposal he sure is useless. A 10 year old with 30th century tech would defeat any current military force. Are his purple thigh high boots in fashion in the 30th Century? kav and Bo1983 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Comics4All said: HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH 30TH CENTURY TECHNOLOGY! **** Comics4All and greggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
