Resub/Upgrade Database

[linmoth]

Tim: I am working on a list for you that will include the PC X-men 1 9.6.

 

Tom

[lou_fine]

Tim;

 

Don't really have any from personal experience since I don't really tend to pick up CGC slabs, except on the very odd occasion. One that I was comtemplating was a Crash Comics #5 in CGC 8.5 which I found out had been slabbed earlier with a CGC 7.0 grade. Thank god for Heritage's auction archives and my natural insticnt to check something out before buying. CGC serial numbers as follow:

 

Crash Comics #5: Before 7.0 (0073628002)................After 8.5 (0079258004)

 

Another example was the Lost Valley copy of Master Comics #26 with the Raboy cover slabbed as CGC 9.0 which I saw at the SD con. Just as I was about to pay for the book, I decided to walk down a few aisles to Basement Comics for a copy of their Lost Valley catalogue. Good precaution since the catalogue listed the book as being only a CGC 8.0 grade. May have been a typo, but I wasn't going to take the chance. Sorry, no serial number stats for this book here.

 

Another good place for you to look would be on Arty's Edgar Church checklist whereby he shows both the current and old grades for some of the Church books. Again, there are no serial numbers here, but still better than nothing, I guess.

 

Good luck on your database.

[Arty]

Church resubs

 

Edit - for some reason list is a total mess after copy pasting it here. Here's link to original text file

 

Church resub list

 

 

Series Issue Condition PQ User Text 1

Action Comics 137 8.0 VF OW-W Old grade VF- 7.5

Adventure Comics 72 9.8 NM/MT W Old grade NM+ 9.6

Air Fighters Comics 1 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

All Star Comics 33 7.5 VF- W Old grade 6.0 FN OW-W

America's Best Comics 22 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2

America's Best Comics 18 9.4 NM OW Old grade NM- 9.2, (Double copy or not a real Church book)

America's Best Comics 29 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2

Blackhawk 9 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Blue Bolt Vol.2 11 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM 9.4

Boy Comics 4 9.4 NM W Old grade VF/NM9.0

Boy Comics 17 7.5 VF- W Old grade VG 4.0

Bruce Gentry 3 8.5 VF+ OW-W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Buccaneers 25 9.0 VF/NM OW Old grade VF8.0

Bulletman 9 9.4 NM W Old grade NM-9.2

Bulletman 7 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM-9.2 OW

Buz Sawyer 1 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF-NM 9.0

Campus Loves 2 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade NM 9.4

Captain Aero Comics 1 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Captain Midnight 41 9.2 NM- OW Old grade 7.0 FN/VF OW-W

Captain Midnight 45 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Captain Midnight 57 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2

Captain Midnight 8 9.2 NM- W Old grade VF+ 8.5

Comic Cavalcade 18 9.4 NM W Old grade VF-7.5

Crimes by Women 6 8.0 VF OW Old grade VF- 7.5

Cyclone Comics 4 9.4 NM W Old grade 9.0 VF/NM

Cyclone Comics 1 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2

Cyclone Comics 2 9.2 NM- W Old grade VF+ 8.5

Dale Evans Comics 4 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Dale Evans Comics 15 6.0 FN OW-W Old grade FN+ 6.5

Daredevil Comics 1 9.4 NM W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Doc Savage Comics Vol.2 2 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Exposed 2 9.0 VF/NM OW Old grade 8.5 VF+

Fairy Tale Parade 8 9.2 NM- W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Fighting Yank 18 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade VF/NM 9.0 OW

Funnies 51 9.2 NM- OW Old grade VF+ 8.5

Gang Busters 6 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM 9.4 Mis-cut

Gay Comics 21 9.8 NM/MT W Old grade NM+ 9.6

Gene Autry Comics 3 8.0 VF OW Old grade VF 8.0

Gene Autry Comics 5 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade NM 9.4

Golden Lad 2 9.4 NM W Old grade VF/NM 9.0 OW-W

Green Hornet 1 9.2 NM- OW Old grade VF+ 8.5 OW-W

Joker Comics 6 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade VF/NM9.0

Joker Comics 11 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Joker Comics 19 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF+ 8.5

Junior Miss 27 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF+8.5 OW-W

King Comics 24 7.5 VF- W Old grade VF 8.0

King Comics 32 9.0 VF/NM OW Old grade NM- 9.2

Lance O'Casey 3 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM 9.4 ow-w

Magic Comics 14 7.5 VF- W Old grade VF- 7.5

Mary Marvel Comics 3 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade NM 9.4 White

Mary Marvel Comics 2 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade VF+8.5 White

Military Comics 36 8.5 VF+ OW-W Old grade VF8.0

Military Comics 3 9.8 NM/MT W Old grade NM- 9.2

Military Comics 4 9.4 NM W Old grade NM- 9.2

Military Comics 5 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Military Comics 9 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Military Comics 16 9.4 NM W Old grade NM- 9.2

Military Comics 38 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade VF+8.5 Very minor amount of glue on cover

Minute Man 2 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade 8.5 VF+

Minute Man 1 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade 9.2 NM-

Miss Beverly Hills 5 9.0 VF/NM W Old grade VF+ 8.5 OW-W

More Fun Comics 28 9.4 NM OW Old grade NM- 9.2

More Fun Comics 118 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM 9.4

More Fun Comics 36 9.6 NM+ OW-W Very minor CT on cover, Old grade 9.8 NM/MT Slight(P)

New Adventure Comics 19 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2 OW

Our Flag Comics 1 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2

Plastic Man 16 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade VF+ 8.5

Plastic Man 17 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade VF+ 8.5 OW-W

Plastic Man 2 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade NM- 9.2

Plastic Man 9 9.6 NM+ OW Old grade NM9.4

Police Comics 54 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM-9.2 OW-W

Police Comics 30 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM9.4

Power Comics 4 8.0 VF W Old grade NM- 9.2 OW

Prize Comics 13 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2 OW-W

Prize Comics 5 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF 8.0

Real Fact Comics 1 9.6 NM+ W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Real Heroes Comics 1 9.4 NM OW Old grade NM- 9.2 OW-W

Red Dragon (2nd series) 3 9.2 NM- OW Old grade VF/NM9.0

Red Ryder Comics 9 9.4 NM OW Old grade NM- 9.2

Red Ryder Comics 6 9.4 NM W Old grade (1st) VF+ 8.5, (2nd) NM- 9.2

Sensation Comics 53 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2

Sensation Comics 56 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM 9.4

Sensation Comics 60 9.4 NM W Old grade VF/NM 9.0

Sensation Comics 71 9.0 VF/NM OW-W Old grade VF/NM 9.0 W

Sensation Comics 76 9.0 VF/NM OW-W Old grade VF+ 8.5

Sensation Comics 82 7.5 VF- W Old grade VF+ 8.5 OW-W

Sensation Comics 87 9.0 VF/NM OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2 White

Silver Streak Comics 18 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old Grade NM9.4

Silver Streak Comics 19 9.4 NM OW-W Old Grade NM9.4 White

Smash Comics 3 9.2 NM- OW Old grade (1st) NM/VF9.0, (2nd) VF+ 8.5

Smash Comics 33 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM-9.2

Smash Comics 58 9.4 NM OW Old grade NM-9.2

Sparkler Comics 3 9.6 NM+ OW-W Old grade NM-9.2 White

Sparkler Comics 19 9.4 NM OW Old grade NM-9.2

Sparkler Comics 39 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM-9.2

Star Spangled Comics 17 9.6 NM+ W Double cover 1st cover 9.2, Old grade 1st cover 7.5 2nd 8.5

Supersnipe Comics 10 9.6 NM+ W Old grade NM- 9.2

Supersnipe Comics Vol.2 7 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade VF+ 8.5

Suspense Comics 7 9.4 NM W Old grade NM- 9.2 OW-W

Terrific Comics 1 7.5 VF- OW-W Old grade VF+ 8.5 Qualified

Tip Top Comics 39 8.0 VF OW-W Qualified, 2 large pieces cut out of 24th page, affects story. Incomplete - Old grade VF- 7.5 BLUE label

Top-Notch Comics 12 9.4 NM W Old grade 9.2 NM-

Top-Notch Comics 14 9.2 NM- OW-W Old grade VF+8.5 OW

Whirlwind Comics 1 9.4 NM OW-W Old grade NM- 9.2 W

[Arty]

[Red Hook]

Don't forget the Avengers #16 Pacific Coast copy that went from a 9.2 with 1 staple, to a 9.6 with no mention ANYWHERE of a missing staple. One of the classic resubs!

 

9.2 CGC # 0019280001

 

9.6 CGC # 0044755001

 

Here's the thread on it.....it started out as a discussion of an Avengers 57 PC, but quickly turned to this book mentioned above. Pacific Coast Avengers 16 9.2 to 9.6

[tth2]

Wow! Thanks Arty. This is great.

 

And thanks to everyone else that has been sending in info.

[Red Hook]

These are all Green River resubs......

 

The Daredevil 11 that started it all!

 

9.4 0118020001

9.6 0080526003 This invoice is only one digit off from one of the invoices listed in Sterlings excel sheet of Ewert subs.

 

Daredevil 18 resub:

 

9.4 0028245006

9.6 0072796012 * see below.

 

Tales of Suspense #42

 

8.5 0051242005

9.0 0072786003 * This invoice is only 10 digits away from the invoice for the Daredevil 18 9.6

 

I have good size scans of all three pairs of slabs.

 

Red

[tth2]

Thanks Brad!

[Red Hook]

Anytime, Tim.

[oldmilwaukee6er]

DONAHUE FILE COPIES (Heritage Date)

 

before: CGC 9.6 Snatch #1 (3rd) #0064488006 (07/17/03)

after: CGC 9.8 Snatch #1 (3rd) #0073974002 (04/04/04)

 

before: CGC 9.8 Snatch #2 (4th) #0064488007 (07/17/03)

after: CGC 9.8 Snatch #2 (4th) #0073974003 (04/04/04)

 

before: CGC 9.8 Snatch #3 (1st) #0062415003 (07/17/03)

after: CGC 9.9 Snatch #3 (1st) #0073974004 (06/13/04)

 

Before and after scans can be provided... Note consecutive certification numbers upon re-sub (same Heritage buyer, same re-sub batch).

[EggsAckley]

How do you know that the Donahue books are resubs since there are multiple file copies in existence?

[EggsAckley]

The seller could have just bought new copies from Donahue and had them slabbed, in fact the seller could have been Donahue!

[oldmilwaukee6er]

The seller could have just bought new copies from Donahue and had them slabbed, in fact the seller could have been Donahue!

See also my PM...

 

Multiple copies of Donahue File Copies (same printing) do not exist to my knowledge, but if you have information to the contrary PLS bring it forth. Indeed this is contrary to information presented by Heritage's Jim Pitts on the subject (see below). I am aware of Schenker/Last Gasp File Copies and Fred Todd File Copies, and b/c of this there is overlap on some titles (e.g. a Schenker File AND a Donahue File) and between printings (1st/2nd), but I have not seen this for Snatch in my research and neither is this reflected in GPAnalysis (there are two listings for #3, but not for #1 and #2).

 

SOURCE: http://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18862

"Well as THE person responsible for "Don Donahue File Copies" allow me to explain. Besides his "inventory" Don has maintained a "collection" that he kept in manila folders and metal file cabinets. What he is consigning to Heritage, that we get slabbed by CGC, are not the copies that he sells on EBay, or in his catalogs. These are the personal copies that he kept at the time because he thought the condition was superior to any other copy he had at the time.

[tth2]

The seller could have just bought new copies from Donahue and had them slabbed, in fact the seller could have been Donahue!

See also my PM...

 

Multiple copies of Donahue File Copies (same printing) do not exist to my knowledge, but if you have information to the contrary PLS bring it forth. Indeed this is contrary to information presented by Heritage's Jim Pitts on the subject (see below). I am aware of Schenker/Last Gasp File Copies and Fred Todd File Copies, and b/c of this there is overlap on some titles (e.g. a Schenker File AND a Donahue File) and between printings (1st/2nd), but I have not seen this for Snatch in my research and neither is this reflected in GPAnalysis (there are two listings for #3, but not for #1 and #2).

 

SOURCE: http://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18862

"Well as THE person responsible for "Don Donahue File Copies" allow me to explain. Besides his "inventory" Don has maintained a "collection" that he kept in manila folders and metal file cabinets. What he is consigning to Heritage, that we get slabbed by CGC, are not the copies that he sells on EBay, or in his catalogs. These are the personal copies that he kept at the time because he thought the condition was superior to any other copy he had at the time.

Thanks, when I get a chance I'll look at the before and after scans to confirm they're all resubs of the same book. If anyone else would like to cast their expert eyes too, I would certainly appreciate it.

[paperheart]

harry's GL #16 went from 9.2 to 9.4.

[oldmilwaukee6er]

How do you know that the Donahue books are resubs since there are multiple file copies in existence?

According to further research conducted by EggsAckley, this statement appears to be true. More correspondence is pending and will be presented, but the Snatch Files may NOT be RESUBS as I had previously posited.

 

For the record, I should've know better than to question Eggs. . . brother sold me my CGC 8.5 Mr Natural #2 (1st)!