pwog Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) Hi all, I have a copy of Incredible Hulk 181. I think it's in pretty decent shape, but someone put what looks like whiteout on the cover. The pages are all attached, the staples are clean and the pages are not brittle, but are the color you see in the photo below. Considering the whiteout and above, I'm wondering what you guys think the grade would be? Edited November 1, 2021 by pwog Galen130 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Several Severe Spine Stress Lines W/Color Break, Rounded Corners W/Creasing, Creasing W/Color Break along the Right Edge, What appears to be Scratches W/Color Break on the Front Cover, Whiteout/Stain in the "L" of Hulk, Slight Staining/Dust Shadow on Rear Cover. IMO... VG+ 4.5 - VG/FN 5.0 5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN): Back to Top An above-average but well used comic book. An accumulation of bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor to moderate cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases and/or dimples. Inks have moderate to low reflectivity. Blunted corners are increasingly common, as is minor to moderate staining, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor to moderate spine roll is allowed. A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and minor stress lines may also be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown with no signs of brittleness. Centerfold may be loose. Minor interior tears may also be present. 4.5 VERY GOOD+ (VG): Back to Top Fits the criteria for Very Good but with an additional virtue or small accumulation of virtues that improves the book's appearance by a perceptible amount. 4.0 VERY GOOD (VG): Back to Top The average used comic book. Cover shows moderate to significant wear, and may be loose but not completely detached. Cover reflectivity is low. Can have moderate creases or dimples. Corners may be blunted. Store stamps, name stamps, arrival dates, initials, etc. have no effect on this grade. Some discoloration, fading, foxing, and even minor soiling is allowed. As much as a 1/4" triangle can be missing out of the corner or edge; a missing 1/8" square is also acceptable. Only minor unobtrusive tape and other amateur repair allowed on otherwise high grade copies. Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. Staples may be discolored. Minor to moderate staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as some rust migration. Paper is brown but not brittle. Minor to moderate interior tears may be present. Centerfold may be loose or detached at one staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygramformongo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 First off remember the most important fact: ANY Hulk 181 is better than NO Hulk 181! But really that's a 5.0 for me. I have zero experience with books featuring white out on the cover but it's small enough (and happens to be on a white-ish section already which maybe shouldn't matter but does to me) that I'm not docking a huge amount for it. Congrats on a great book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 5.0/5.5. Wonder if the whiteout touch up would warrant a purple label… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowGradeBronze Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 3:21 PM, Galen130 said: 5.0/5.5. Wonder if the whiteout touch up would warrant a purple label… Good point and I suspect it would, given that it is intentional colour touch. Still a very nice lowish grade copy around 4.0 to 4.5 for me. Doesn't quite make 5.0 even w/o the whiteout. Galen130 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 5.0 Restored. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwog Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Thanks everyone who commented, so far. I was wondering if the white out would be considered a stain. grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 3:17 PM, pwog said: I was wondering if the white out would be considered a stain. I have to believe the whiteout is covering something. Anywhere else on the cover and who knows, it could have been accidental. But it was applied carefully enough not to touch the black border of the letter "L." Looking at the interior of the front cover may show what is there underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrodcar Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Agree, it doesn't appear the white out is accidental, it is purposefully confined within the letter L; it's not a spill, it's a touch up. Regardless, really nice book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Might be able to see what the white out is covering from the inside front cover. With a cleaning, it might see 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygramformongo Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Perhaps based on @67Lovers's copy of this same book that we just saw the grade come back on we should go ahead and add 1.0-1.5 to all of our expected grades?! (For what it's worth I was 100% with all of you at 7.5/8.0 on that one that then came back as a freaking 9.2?!?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 10:29 AM, grendelbo said: 5.0 Restored. Thanks for posting. Close. I've got it at 4.0 purple. Aside from the 5.0 type of wear, that whiteout should be counted as another defect because it hurts the condition rather than helps it. The Lions Den and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am The Answer! Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 The Answer is: 4.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4.5 purple. While I agree it did more harm than good (as does much "restoration"), white-out intentionally applied to a white area = color touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universal soldier Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 4.5 for me too, tough luck on the white out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
