Question Regarding VAT number for art coming from Portugal 1 1

[BCoffee]

Hello,

I bought a page from a seller in Portugal, and their custom form is asking that they get a VAT or tax identification number from me. I’m a private citizen and not a business in the US. Anyone have any idea what they need to enter for this? They’ve tried NA and leaving it blank, and it’s not working. 
thanks

[RBerman]

SSN?

[BCoffee]

On 1/17/2022 at 11:59 AM, RBerman said:

SSN?

I would definitely not provide that. 

[malvin]

I remember this being discussed on the boards before and I can't recall the final answer

Googling found this:

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-314?language=en_US

Looks like SIN...

 

Malvin

[BCoffee]

On 1/17/2022 at 1:01 PM, malvin said:

I remember this being discussed on the boards before and I can't recall the final answer

Googling found this:

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-314?language=en_US

Looks like SIN...

 

Malvin

Do you mean EIN? What if I’m not an employer?

[malvin]

On 1/17/2022 at 11:07 AM, BCoffee said:

Do you mean EIN? What if I’m not an employer?

I don't know, ask Google? I am sure this question came up elsewhere :P 

I'm in Canada

Malvin

[vodou]

This came up once for me doing a deal out of Italy. I just made up a number with 9 digits.

Does anybody think they're actually verifying anything? Maybe a checksum at most, but I'd put $50 on a "no" even there.

No doubt this is all illegal in Italy, but I'd like to see them try to petition The Hague to bring criminal charges against me in New Hampshire  

[BCoffee]

On 1/17/2022 at 1:46 PM, vodou said:

This came up once for me doing a deal out of Italy. I just made up a number with 9 digits.

Does anybody think they're actually verifying anything? Maybe a checksum at most, but I'd put $50 on a "no" even there.

No doubt this is all illegal in Italy, but I'd like to see them try to petition The Hague to bring criminal charges against me in New Hampshire  

I mean, there’s no way on earth I would give anyone my social security number over a comic art sale. So the fake number worked? Did you declare the actual amount of the sale?

[vodou]

On 1/17/2022 at 6:29 PM, BCoffee said:

I mean, there’s no way on earth I would give anyone my social security number over a comic art sale

I wouldn't worry about it, all of China and Russia already have it.

On 1/17/2022 at 6:29 PM, BCoffee said:

So the fake number worked?

Sure. Everyone just needed the form completed. That's the Beauty of Bureaucracy.

On 1/17/2022 at 6:29 PM, BCoffee said:

Did you declare the actual amount of the sale?

I was the buyer, so it -the actual amount of the sale- was recorded outgoing on the export form by the seller.

But the amount is immaterial as long as your seller fills the forms out correctly as to "what" it is.

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-360?language=en_US