What Constitutes a "Medium" Spine Split? 1 1

[Yale Stewart]

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct forum for this post, but I was wondering if there's a general guideline to what constitutes a "medium" spine split in grader's notes, rather than small or large. Is it 1"-2"? More? Less? Just curious. There may not even be a guideline and it's just how the grader felt like describing it, but thought I'd ask. Thanks!

[theCapraAegagrus]

That's actually a great question, but I'm not sure that we can get a definitive answer about the grader's criteria for "medium" in this context.

Personally, I would consider anything less than 1" to be small. I suppose that I would consider 1-2" to be medium, and then 2"+ to be large.

@The Lions Den, is there a streamlined criteria that you can comment on, or does it differ from person to person?

[The Lions Den]

On 1/26/2022 at 8:20 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

That's actually a great question, but I'm not sure that we can get a definitive answer about the grader's criteria for "medium" in this context.

Personally, I would consider anything less than 1" to be small. I suppose that I would consider 1-2" to be medium, and then 2"+ to be large.

@The Lions Den, is there a streamlined criteria that you can comment on, or does it differ from person to person?

First, I love the phrase "streamlined criteria." That's great, man!  

Next, I think the word medium shows that the grader thought it was significant but not severe. Of course, a quick measurement with a common ruler would have been helpful in this situation...     

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by The Lions Den

[marvelmaniac]

Spine splits are not measured in small, medium and large, they are measured in inches.

 

0.5 POOR (PR) Can have extremely ragged spines or a complete, book-length split.

1.0 FAIR (FR) Spine split can extend up to 2/3 the length of the book. 

1.5 FAIR/GOOD (FR/GD)  May have a spine split between 2" and 2/3 the length of the book.

 2.0 GOOD (GD) May have up to a 2" spine split.

3.0 GOOD/VERY GOOD (GD/VG) May have a spine split of anywhere from 1" to 1-1/2".

4.0 VERY GOOD (VG) Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split.

 5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN) A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. 

6.0 FINE (FN) A minor spine roll is allowed. There can also be a 1/4" spine split or severe color break.

 

[Yale Stewart]

On 1/26/2022 at 9:36 AM, marvelmaniac said:

Spine splits are not measured in small, medium and large, they are measured in inches.

 

0.5 POOR (PR) Can have extremely ragged spines or a complete, book-length split.

1.0 FAIR (FR) Spine split can extend up to 2/3 the length of the book. 

1.5 FAIR/GOOD (FR/GD)  May have a spine split between 2" and 2/3 the length of the book.

 2.0 GOOD (GD) May have up to a 2" spine split.

3.0 GOOD/VERY GOOD (GD/VG) May have a spine split of anywhere from 1" to 1-1/2".

4.0 VERY GOOD (VG) Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split.

 5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN) A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. 

6.0 FINE (FN) A minor spine roll is allowed. There can also be a 1/4" spine split or severe color break.

 

I mean, I would assume you'd list it in inches, but on these CGC grader's notes it just says "Medium Spine Split Bottom Spine"

[marvelmaniac]

On 1/26/2022 at 12:37 PM, Yale Stewart said:

I mean, I would assume you'd list it in inches, but on these CGC grader's notes it just says "Medium Spine Split Bottom Spine"

I cannot answer the question of what does CGC consider a "Medium Spine Split", the definition of medium is "about halfway between two extremes of size or another quality; average."    

By that definition only, one can only assume that the split is anywhere from 4" - 6" long.

What grade did the book receive?

Can you see the split through the slab and measure it.

Have you contacted CGC and asked them what their definition of a "medium spline split" is?

 

[silverseeker]

@Yale Stewart, you can try posting your question here and see if you get a response.

https://boards.cgccomics.com/forum/23-ask-cgc/

It would be interesting to hear what exactly constitutes a medium spine split...

[Yale Stewart]

@silverseeker Thanks so much for the advice! Just posted over there.

[Yale Stewart]

On 1/27/2022 at 9:46 AM, marvelmaniac said:

I cannot answer the question of what does CGC consider a "Medium Spine Split", the definition of medium is "about halfway between two extremes of size or another quality; average."    

By that definition only, one can only assume that the split is anywhere from 4" - 6" long.

What grade did the book receive?

Can you see the split through the slab and measure it.

Have you contacted CGC and asked them what their definition of a "medium spline split" is?

 

The book was graded at 2.5. It's a listing, so I'm unable to look at the spine myself. As for contacting CGC, that's kind of what I thought I was doing via this thread, but I posted in the Ask CGC forum as per silverseeker's recommendation.

[marvelmaniac]

Without seeing the actual book one would assume that with a grade of GD+ 2.5 that the spine split would be between 1" and 2" according to the grading standards, unless the book was a higher grade and the spine split reduced the grade to a GD+ 2.5.

[steveinthecity]

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