I have a question about CGC Gold labels 0

[MaxMan12005]

Yesterday I received Ryan Ottley signatures, and at the store he signed them at, after you got the comics signed you could turn them into CGC to get graded. I did not turn mine in cause I did not have enough money. I do however still have my receipts that say on the receipt the date, and who signed my comics. If I were to turn these comics into CGC in the future along with my receipts, is it possible for me to receive a gold label? Is there any way to get a gold label if you have proof of the signature, but did not turn it into the CGC at the time like I did? Is there an option where CGC looks at the signatures in detail to verify it is a real signature?

[SOTIcollector]

No.  in order for a book to qualify for gold label, CGC must retain possession of a book from signing to encapsulation.  

CGC doesn’t verify signatures that they didn’t witness, and the moment you walked away with the book it became, in their eyes, unwitnessed.

 

 

 

[revat]

Small chance you can if in fact you are Ryan Ottley, or you live with Cgc witness and they never left the chain of custody of the Cgc witness

i would add that if you couldn’t afford it that day it probably won’t be a good use of your money in the near future

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 2/13/2022 at 1:01 PM, MaxMan12005 said:

1. If I were to turn these comics into CGC in the future along with my receipts, is it possible for me to receive a gold label?
2. Is there any way to get a gold label if you have proof of the signature, but did not turn it into the CGC at the time like I did?
3. Is there an option where CGC looks at the signatures in detail to verify it is a real signature?

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.

[shadroch]

CGC doesn't care if the signature is real, only that they witnessed it.

[Fisionbomb]

Also, you're not getting a gold label unless it's a pedigree book.  I think you're really reffering to yellow labels...

CGC Signature Series^®Label (Yellow)

... which you're unfortunately still not going to get without CGC witnessing the signing and maintaining chain of custody. 

[robertlittle68]

I am 53 years old and have been colleting since I was 8 years old.  I have an Amazing Spider-man #1 that was signed on the inside cover by Stan Lee.  The book was signed long before CGC offered the signature service.  I have a polaroid of him signing it, which clearly shows a Stan Lee that is younger, a pre-dates a time when CGC could have witnessed the signature.  I did sent it in many years ago (along with the photograph) and I got a Blue Label with a note saying there is writing on the inside cover.  What are my options with this book, as it seems unfair & clear that the event happened prior to the beginning of this service?  Are there exceptions that can be made?

[Sigur Ros]

On 2/13/2022 at 1:01 PM, MaxMan12005 said:

 If I were to turn these comics into CGC in the future along with my receipts, is it possible for me to receive a gold label? 

Yes... at CBCS.  They offer sig verification whereas CGC does not.

[Sigur Ros]

On 2/14/2022 at 7:25 PM, robertlittle68 said:

I am 53 years old and have been colleting since I was 8 years old.  I have an Amazing Spider-man #1 that was signed on the inside cover by Stan Lee.  The book was signed long before CGC offered the signature service.  I have a polaroid of him signing it, which clearly shows a Stan Lee that is younger, a pre-dates a time when CGC could have witnessed the signature.  I did sent it in many years ago (along with the photograph) and I got a Blue Label with a note saying there is writing on the inside cover.  What are my options with this book, as it seems unfair & clear that the event happened prior to the beginning of this service?  Are there exceptions that can be made?

deleted comment.   Guess I'm not allowed to delete the post itself.

Edited February 15, 2022 by Sigur Ros

[revat]

On 2/14/2022 at 4:25 PM, robertlittle68 said:

I am 53 years old and have been colleting since I was 8 years old.  I have an Amazing Spider-man #1 that was signed on the inside cover by Stan Lee.  The book was signed long before CGC offered the signature service.  I have a polaroid of him signing it, which clearly shows a Stan Lee that is younger, a pre-dates a time when CGC could have witnessed the signature.  I did sent it in many years ago (along with the photograph) and I got a Blue Label with a note saying there is writing on the inside cover.  What are my options with this book, as it seems unfair & clear that the event happened prior to the beginning of this service?  Are there exceptions that can be made?

I don't think anything in this regard has changed since you previously submitted it, with CGC.

You have options with other companies, if you think that is the right move for you. 

The point is, CGC does not have any kind of apparatus to verify the legitimacy or accuracy of signatures.  That is simply not a service they provide.  Essentially you're asking a chef at a restaurant to make your steak into a beef hummus dish.  It doesn't seem like the hardest thing ever and most chefs in theory could do it, but they choose not to run a restaurant where you can just order completely off the menu, and they don't have anyone qualified to make hummus at a high enough level.  And certainly there are restaurants where you can order a steak AND order a beef hummus, but those restaurants aren't as popular as this one currently.

[Avi]

Is CGC making labels out of gold now? Might explain the turn around times.

Edited February 15, 2022 by Avi

[Sigur Ros]

On 2/15/2022 at 12:09 PM, Avi said:

Is CGC making labels out of gold now? Might explain the turn around times.

...and twice-yearly price increases.

[William-James88]

On 2/15/2022 at 12:09 PM, Avi said:

Is CGC making labels out of gold now? Might explain the turn around times.

The OP is mistaken, they meant Yellow labels.

There are indeed Gold labels though, that's the current label for pedigree books, like this one that I recently got back.