Axe Elf Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Ok, my turn. This is basically a question to help educate myself on the effect of a major defect in grading an otherwise pretty nice issue. I think this copy of the first widely-distributed issue of EERIE looks pretty nice--but it has two fairly major defects. I don't know if there was a shadow or what, but the pages look more off-whitish (like the right side) than yellowish (like the left side) in person. Anyway, and it probably looks worse in person than it does on the scan, but the first major defect is that there are a lot of horizontal scuff marks on the back cover, about 3/8" apart, most noticeable in the lower left quadrant of the back cover. But most damning would be the 1/4" tear that goes all the way through the right edge of the book about halfway down: I really don't know how to take that into account. The book looks pretty 5.5ish to me overall, maybe even a 6.0 without the tear and the scuffs), but how much does something like that affect the overall grade... maybe a 4.5 to 5.0? Parenthetically, the seller graded it as a 4.0 VG, but that seems pretty harsh--I just don't know how much that tear affects things. You don't really "see" the tear looking straight on at the front cover, but the fact that it IS torn all the way through the book can't be good. Any thoughts/education would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4.0 seems about right to me. I think the driving factor is the extensive color rubbing. The tear just kind of locks it in and keeps it from being a little higher. Februus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 8:19 PM, JohnT said: 4.0 seems about right to me. I think the driving factor is the extensive color rubbing. The tear just kind of locks it in and keeps it from being a little higher. I appreciate the input. Just seems sad when the corners and edges look so sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Such a shame, the books looks terrific otherwise. Was a regular piece of cardboard used for a backing board? That's what it looks like on the back. The Lions Den and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4.0/4.5 Thanks for posting. On 2/18/2022 at 8:10 PM, oakman29 said: Was a regular piece of cardboard used for a backing board? That's what it looks like on the back. Great observation. The Lions Den and Februus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Februus Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4.0 to 5.0 the seller was just covering himself and didn’t want to give a false representation - I like it when they grade on the low end. The tear is what really hurts because it’s all the pages.. consider it a 4.0 as advertised and maybe you will be pleasantly surprised grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 9:10 PM, oakman29 said: Was a regular piece of cardboard used for a backing board? I really don't know, but that sounds reasonable. This book came in a large lot of mid-low grade EERIEs, and I kind of have the impression that the seller got them at a garage sale and bagged and boarded them all before shipping just to make them look nice. On the plus side, he does seem to be very conservative with his grading, as noted in the comments people have made on this item. There are several others that I think could go at least one grade higher, so I appreciate that he didn't overrepresent them--but then, as I've said before, I knew nothing about grading comics two weeks ago, so it may just be me. Maybe I'll ask the board's opinion on a few more of them, over time. The bottom line is that I really don't care if a particular book is a 4.0 or a 4.5 or whatever, because I don't plan to resell them--I just wanted to get all the issues of EERIE so I could read them. Learning how to grade them is just part of the fun for me. davidtere, grendelbo and JohnT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 You like Warren horror mags? Check out my journals. grendelbo and davidtere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 2/18/2022 at 10:13 PM, oakman29 said: You like Warren horror mags? Check out my journals. I wouldn't know where to find them. As I said in my intro post (in the "EERIE 23 Club" thread), I'm not really a "collector," I just liked CREEPY and EERIE magazine when I was a teenager, and I recently decided to see if I could get them all. I wasn't into Vampirella much, and the only other Warren publication that would probably interest me would be The Rook. So I'm not really interested in ALL the Warren books, just the ones that had a place in my childhood. Edited February 19, 2022 by Axe Elf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Here are my journals . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 10:31 PM, oakman29 said: Here are my journals . Ah, yes, you are clearly more of a collector than I am; it looks like all your CREEPYs and EERIEs are high grade keepsakes. Looks like a beautiful collection. I just want to read them. Parenthetically, have you seen that huge near-full-run lot of CREEPYs on eBay (including another 9.0 slabbed #1)? They want $3200 for 136 issues, pricing each book at just under $25 each. He lists a lot of "VF/NM" and "NM" grades, so if that's accurate, it might be worth it--and it could maybe give your collection a run for its money--but I don't think the wife would be ok with me going after all the CREEPYs right now, after spending about half that to reel in the full run of EERIEs in the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 8:51 PM, Axe Elf said: Ah, yes, you are clearly more of a collector than I am; it looks like all your CREEPYs and EERIEs are high grade keepsakes. Looks like a beautiful collection. I just want to read them. Parenthetically, have you seen that huge near-full-run lot of CREEPYs on eBay (including another 9.0 slabbed #1)? They want $3200 for 136 issues, pricing each book at just under $25 each. He lists a lot of "VF/NM" and "NM" grades, so if that's accurate, it might be worth it--and it could maybe give your collection a run for its money--but I don't think the wife would be ok with me going after all the CREEPYs right now, after spending about half that to reel in the full run of EERIEs in the last few weeks. Nothing wrong with collecting runs one book at a time, no? I'm wouldnt buy books in completed lots, it's just no fun building the run to completion on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 10:55 PM, oakman29 said: Nothing wrong with collecting runs one book at a time, no? I'm wouldnt buy books in completed lots, it's just no fun building the run to completion on your own. Eh, I only want to get readable copies as cheaply as possible. Not just any old trash 1.5 copies, necessarily, but you know, respectable 4.0-6.0 type books. If I can get a bunch at once and save on shipping, so much the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 8:59 PM, Axe Elf said: Eh, I only want to get readable copies as cheaply as possible. Not just any old trash 1.5 copies, necessarily, but you know, respectable 4.0-6.0 type books. If I can get a bunch at once and save on shipping, so much the better. Touche' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 2/18/2022 at 10:55 PM, Axe Elf said: The bottom line is that I really don't care if a particular book is a 4.0 or a 4.5 or whatever, because I don't plan to resell them--I just wanted to get all the issues of EERIE so I could read them. Learning how to grade them is just part of the fun for me. From what I can see, VG seems like a reasonable grade for this book. (And just so you know, that's the first time I can remember anyone using the word parenthetically in a sentence!) Edited February 19, 2022 by The Lions Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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