Siegel and Shuster clip kind of cool. 2 2

[Seriously?]

On 9/24/2023 at 7:20 PM, 50YrsCollctngCmcs said:

It would be great if someone wrote a factual history of this without emotion getting in the way. A recounting of the various suits and settlements but also a real hard look at how these guys dealt with the money they did receive would be fascinating. It seems like the money was never enough or it was not invested wisely or otherwise squandered away. It's hard to say what really happened but the old maxim, "Save for a rainy day!" comes to mind.

Yes if they patented Superman now, with lawyers etc, they would have made tons 

[Professor K]

On 9/24/2023 at 7:20 PM, 50YrsCollctngCmcs said:

It would be great if someone wrote a factual history of this without emotion getting in the way. A recounting of the various suits and settlements but also a real hard look at how these guys dealt with the money they did receive would be fascinating. It seems like the money was never enough or it was not invested wisely or otherwise squandered away. It's hard to say what really happened but the old maxim, "Save for a rainy day!" comes to mind.

I agree that would be nice. Maybe nobody has wriiten about it in detail for fear of being subject to a lawsuit. 

Regarding money or decisions prior to both men's passing I'm not sure if they were ever actually paid that money. I've heard a story of Joe delivering a message to DC or National in the winter with no coat because he was so broke, but 94k in the late 1940's could get you a lot of coats. 

[KCOComics]

Here is something I found doing some googling. 

It seems like, in those early years,  they were compensated better than most creaters, but not fairly given the success of their creation.  For example,  even though they were entitled to royalties from the radio show,  DC cooked the books to show the radio show took a loss and wouldn't have pay Jerry or Joe.

Still, the dou received $100k from DC annually (not sure if that's individually or together).  That $100k had to cover salaries and expenses of people they employed as well.

This all assume the article is accurate. It seems a little bias against the narrative that they were poor, struggling artist. It's also a 3 part series and I haven't read the other two parts yet. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-herald.com/2013/05/11/superman-at-75-were-clevelands-jerry-siegel-and-joe-shuster-really-that-innocent/amp/

Edited September 29, 2023 by KCOComics

[aardvark88]

On 9/29/2023 at 2:00 AM, KCOComics said:

Here is something I found doing some googling.

 

Took Siegel and Shuster six (6) years to sell the Superman comic concept per 1940 interviews:

 

[sfcityduck]

On 3/10/2022 at 9:44 PM, LDarkseid1 said:

My guys.

So happy this exists!

[sfcityduck]

On 9/24/2023 at 4:20 PM, 50YrsCollctngCmcs said:

It would be great if someone wrote a factual history of this without emotion getting in the way. A recounting of the various suits and settlements but also a real hard look at how these guys dealt with the money they did receive would be fascinating. It seems like the money was never enough or it was not invested wisely or otherwise squandered away. It's hard to say what really happened but the old maxim, "Save for a rainy day!" comes to mind.

Factual histories would be great. But don't hold your breath for getting one involving Kirby (especially Kirby), Lee, or Siegel and Shuster.

[50YrsCollctngCmcs]

On 10/8/2023 at 3:04 PM, sfcityduck said:

Factual histories would be great. But don't hold your breath for getting one involving Kirby (especially Kirby), Lee, or Siegel and Shuster.

I'd only be interested in reading about Siegel and Shuster at this point. I'm not interested in all the Kirby nonsense.

[aardvark88]

Geppi's Action Comics #1 raw:

[aardvark88]

On 3/11/2022 at 6:20 AM, Point Five said:

Loved this.

 

Pre-Action Comics #1 Shuster Superman drawings, marketing prelims circa 1935. Pics courtesy of Bob Beerbohm's fb page:

[Point Five]

On 11/29/2023 at 11:59 AM, aardvark88 said:

Pre-Action Comics #1 Shuster Superman drawings, marketing prelims circa 1935. Pics courtesy of Bob Beerbohm's fb page:

Wild that S&S were thinking about the marketing possibilities of Superman -- foreseeing the 1940 product explosion and so forth -- even way back in 1935, when he was a completely untested concept. Just wild.

 

[aardvark88]

On 11/29/2023 at 9:04 AM, Point Five said:

Wild that S&S were thinking about the marketing possibilities of Superman -- foreseeing the 1940 product explosion and so forth -- even way back in 1935, when he was a completely untested concept.

 

More 1935 Superman notes from Shuster.

[KCOComics]

This was in the December Comic Connect catalog.  

It's certainly doesn't sound like Seigal was in good financial shape in 1951. 

I feel like this line could have easily worked into dozens of EC stories: 

"As long as I live, and afterwards,  I shall haunt you and yours.  Before God, I put a curse on you" 

Edited December 17, 2023 by KCOComics

[aardvark88]

Siegel and Shuster 1941 in person:

[aardvark88]

Editor Weisinger did not think much of Lois Lane or Superman initially.