PGM Amazing Spider-Man 158 (30 cent) 3 3

[ComicSpa]

Reader copy. Many defects. On the inside the centerfold is detached on the bottom staple. Thanks again for your input.

[Axe Elf]

I don't think you can go above a 4.0 with a centerfold detached at one staple.  It's got a lot of spine wear and some corner creasing, but it presents pretty well, so I'm not seeing anything else that would be inconsistent with the 4.0 from the centerfold issue.

[Bayowolf]

On 3/14/2022 at 9:14 PM, Axe Elf said:

I don't think you can go above a 4.0 with a centerfold detached at one staple.  It's got a lot of spine wear and some corner creasing, but it presents pretty well, so I'm not seeing anything else that would be inconsistent with the 4.0 from the centerfold issue.

I was ready to give a 5.0 until I saw AxeElf's opinion. I am not sure a  centerfold detached at one staple will make it at 4.0, but if so then 4.0. That is a bad defect, but the front cover looks pretty good, yes it has creases and small spine tics; but still presents well so I'd still like to go 5.0

[Februus]

I will say at 5.0 as well. If the centerfold was detached completely maybe different. But it appears to be firmly attached at the top 

[Axe Elf]

I've seen a few people use the Heritage Auction guidelines in this forum, but this is basically what I'm seeing everywhere--loose, ok in a 5.0; detached at one staple, ok in a 4.0.

5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN):
An above-average but well used comic book. An accumulation of bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor to moderate cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases and/or dimples. Inks have moderate to low reflectivity. Blunted corners are increasingly common, as is minor to moderate staining, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor to moderate spine roll is allowed. A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and minor stress lines may also be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown with no signs of brittleness. Centerfold may be loose. Minor interior tears may also be present.

4.5 VERY GOOD+ (VG):
Fits the criteria for Very Good but with an additional virtue or small accumulation of virtues that improves the book's appearance by a perceptible amount.

4.0 VERY GOOD (VG):
The average used comic book. Cover shows moderate to significant wear, and may be loose but not completely detached. Cover reflectivity is low. Can have moderate creases or dimples. Corners may be blunted. Store stamps, name stamps, arrival dates, initials, etc. have no effect on this grade. Some discoloration, fading, foxing, and even minor soiling is allowed. As much as a 1/4" triangle can be missing out of the corner or edge; a missing 1/8" square is also acceptable. Only minor unobtrusive tape and other amateur repair allowed on otherwise high grade copies. Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. Staples may be discolored. Minor to moderate staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as some rust migration. Paper is brown but not brittle. Minor to moderate interior tears may be present. Centerfold may be loose or detached at one staple.

[Februus]

On 3/14/2022 at 10:32 PM, Axe Elf said:

I've seen a few people use the Heritage Auction guidelines in this forum, but this is basically what I'm seeing everywhere--loose, ok in a 5.0; detached at one staple, ok in a 4.0.

5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN):
An above-average but well used comic book. An accumulation of bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor to moderate cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases and/or dimples. Inks have moderate to low reflectivity. Blunted corners are increasingly common, as is minor to moderate staining, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor to moderate spine roll is allowed. A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and minor stress lines may also be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown with no signs of brittleness. Centerfold may be loose. Minor interior tears may also be present.

4.5 VERY GOOD+ (VG):
Fits the criteria for Very Good but with an additional virtue or small accumulation of virtues that improves the book's appearance by a perceptible amount.

4.0 VERY GOOD (VG):
The average used comic book. Cover shows moderate to significant wear, and may be loose but not completely detached. Cover reflectivity is low. Can have moderate creases or dimples. Corners may be blunted. Store stamps, name stamps, arrival dates, initials, etc. have no effect on this grade. Some discoloration, fading, foxing, and even minor soiling is allowed. As much as a 1/4" triangle can be missing out of the corner or edge; a missing 1/8" square is also acceptable. Only minor unobtrusive tape and other amateur repair allowed on otherwise high grade copies. Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. Staples may be discolored. Minor to moderate staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as some rust migration. Paper is brown but not brittle. Minor to moderate interior tears may be present. Centerfold may be loose or detached at one staple.

What’s worse cover detached at one staple or centerfold detached at one staple ? 

[Axe Elf]

On 3/15/2022 at 1:06 AM, Februus said:

What’s worse cover detached at one staple or centerfold detached at one staple ? 

Every answer leads to new questions.

[I Am The Answer!]

The Answer is: 4.5

[ComicSpa]

I went back and forth between a 4.0 to 5.0. I have always used the Overstreet Guide to grading comics and l have found out through contests l was always a half a grade lower than what was given as the “grade”. I think the grade is somewhere in that zone. My gut said 4.0. So again l will add a half and give it a 4.5. Haha. Thanks for the discussion 

[bapowell]

On 3/15/2022 at 2:06 AM, Februus said:

What’s worse cover detached at one staple or centerfold detached at one staple ? 

Detached cover is worse.  Take this with a grain of salt, but Eta Nick's cheat sheet is based on known positive samples: 

.  This discussion might also be of interest: 

 

[MrRoboto]

I say 4.5 just due to the fact that it looks like this book has been pressed already. If CGC is being gracious they will 5.0 but if harsh 4.0. I say the middle at 4.5.

[grendelbo]

5.0

Thanks for sharing.

[Galen130]

5.0/5.5