Clean & Pressing 0

[Scrooge & Goldie]

Hi all,

I am a long time collector, but have really only started getting into CGC in the last 3-4 years. I have 21 issues of Walt Disney Uncle Scrooge  (Carl Barks run ranging in issue numbers from  7-71) which I had graded and most have come back in the 6.5 to 8.5 range. I assume if I sent these off again to be pressed and cleaned, they would be opened and then worked on and then need to be need to be regraded. Knowing there are not a huge number of these around, would this be worth doing ?. ( I also have a Incredible Hulk 181 in 8.5 I am toying with the idea as well)

Prices are certainly going up, but I am assuming they can get them out of the sealed holders with out damaging them.  

What  has the feedback been on anyone who has has graded issues opened, pressed and then been disappointed with the grade ?

Alternatively who has had this done and been really happy with the result?

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

[revat]

It really depends on the issues and the defects, and the expected grade bumps.  Also depends how much you’re paying for the cleaning/pressing and regrading and shipping, etc. 

 

buy yes, certainly plenty of folks have gone for clean/press/ regrade and been satisfied with the results. 
but without specifics of your situation that anecdotal evidence is nearly useless.

[zzutak]

On 5/7/2022 at 9:44 PM, Scrooge & Goldie said:

Knowing there are not a huge number of these around, would this be worth doing?

I'm not going to attempt to pinpoint what qualifies as huge; however, I will note that nearly every issue in your specified range has at least 20 CGC-certified specimens.  For a 1950s Atomic Age specialist, 20 would indeed be a huge number.  For a Bronze Age Marvel enthusiast, 20 is probably closer to one week's worth of submissions.

Let's focus on cost relative to value.  Assuming you'd like to get your books back from CGC before you hit retirement age, you'll want to use their Fast Track (FT) service.  Since you have pre-1975 issues, plan on spending $45/book for the press, and another $50/book for certification.  Now add on the per book cost of shipping, return shipping, and insurance.  If my math is correct, you're looking at a minimum cost of $100/book.  I'm confident you have access to a current Overstreet Price Guide, so I'll simply ask this: what increase in value do you expect to get for your $100+ per book outlay?

Now, restore my faith in humanity by admitting that you really didn't need our help.    

[csaag]

On 5/8/2022 at 3:20 PM, zzutak said:

I'm not going to attempt to pinpoint what qualifies as huge; however, I will note that nearly every issue in your specified range has at least 20 CGC-certified specimens.  For a 1950s Atomic Age specialist, 20 would indeed be a huge number.  For a Bronze Age Marvel enthusiast, 20 is probably closer to one week's worth of submissions.

Let's focus on cost relative to value.  Assuming you'd like to get your books back from CGC before you hit retirement age, you'll want to use their Fast Track (FT) service.  Since you have pre-1975 issues, plan on spending $45/book for the press, and another $50/book for certification.  Now add on the per book cost of shipping, return shipping, and insurance.  If my math is correct, you're looking at a minimum cost of $100/book.  I'm confident you have access to a current Overstreet Price Guide, so I'll simply ask this: what increase in value do you expect to get for your $100+ per book outlay?

Now, restore my faith in humanity by admitting that you really didn't need our help.    

since these are curr graded then the total cost basis per book would also include the original slabbing/shipping costs

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 5/8/2022 at 12:44 AM, Scrooge & Goldie said:

Knowing there are not a huge number of these around, would this be worth doing ?

Only if they would certainly improve by being pressed.

[zzutak]

On 5/9/2022 at 5:12 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

Only if they would certainly improve by being pressed.

Seriously?  Remember, the OP's question deals specifically with (Walt Disney's) Uncle Scrooge, issues between #7 and #71, with most in grades of CGC 6.5 FN+ to CGC 8.5 VF+.  Let's assume one of the OP's books in the #41-60 range is currently certified as a 7.0 FN/VF, and that it absolutely, positively would come back as an 8.0 VF if cracked out, cleaned/pressed, and resubmitted to CGC (guaranteed, so that we meet your "certainty" condition).  In this hypothetical, the OP has spent $100+ to increase the guide value of his book by $20. Personally, I view that as a losing proposition.  What am I missing here?  

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 5/9/2022 at 6:49 PM, zzutak said:

Seriously?  Remember, the OP's question deals specifically with (Walt Disney's) Uncle Scrooge, issues between #7 and #71, with most in grades of CGC 6.5 FN+ to CGC 8.5 VF+.  Let's assume one of the OP's books in the #41-60 range is currently certified as a 7.0 FN/VF, and that it absolutely, positively would come back as an 8.0 VF if cracked out, cleaned/pressed, and resubmitted to CGC (guaranteed, so that we meet your "certainty" condition).  In this hypothetical, the OP has spent $100+ to increase the guide value of his book by $20. Personally, I view that as a losing proposition.  What am I missing here?  

I wouldn't say that you're missing anything. My advice was vague. It's basically the same thing that I always say when someone asks for advice on if s/he "should" press a comic book.

[zzutak]