missing pages question 0

[spidrvacc]

ok trying to understand something. assume ya'll can help. 

i sent in my FF annual 2 to CGC. just got the grade and it noted misssing pages 7-8-9  , affects story. 

 

i knew it was missing 6 pages . 13 to 28 which is pinup pages drawn by Kirby , not part of the story. again missing yes .

 

so can i assume when they say missing pages 7 8 9 they are counting the pages as page 1&2 are 1 , pages 3 &4 are 2 etc. so when they say missing pages 7 8 9 they are talking pages 13 to 18?

and if so why not just mention the real page numbers. someone seeing missing pages 7 8 9 would think its missing the best part of the story when Doom gets injured and blames Reed.  and also my missing pinup pictures are yes missing pages but it should not say affects story. 

am i wrong ?

 

just curious

 

 

[Axe Elf]

I think they count the "leafs" as "pages," so one of their "pages" is the front and back of a sheet.  So yes, you interpreted it correctly.

Someone like yourself who wasn't familiar with that might be fooled in the way you describe, but I would think anyone who's dealt with missing pages notated by CGC before would probably be hip to the jive.

[KirbyTown]

The physical page count of the book is what's considered. Story art can be numbered in myriad ways, and most people have no idea about the story content and page numbers anyway.

[KirbyTown]

On 7/15/2022 at 12:54 PM, spidrvacc said:

but it should not say affects story.

Can you upload a pic of the label?

[spidrvacc]

thank you very much. 

im still dont think pin up art of super villians between the 2 stories should be call missing pages affects story.

it does not

 

it shipping back to me now. 

this is what it says.

 

Grader Notes:
missing interior part/page/wrap page(s) 7, 8 & 9 affects story

 

 

 

t.

[KirbyTown]

If you message @CGC Mike he may be able to give you more information. Hope you can get it worked out!

[spidrvacc]

i see it now.

 

and yes i sent in a few personal books i have had for years to display.  these are not books to sell but i still don't like the notes saying affects story. but anyway thank you everyone. i appreciate the help and explanations.

[KirbyTown]

On 7/15/2022 at 1:29 PM, Ice Cream Bunny said:

See where it says "wrap"?

Just to clarify for OP, the term wrap refers to the entire page of paper before it's stapled and folded. For example, on a standard saddle-stitched comic the first interior wrap has pages 1/2 and 31/32.

On a folded comic book, If you tear out the first page of the comic, then you've torn out pages 1 and 2. If you left enough paper behind, then the other half of the wrap (pages 31 and 32) is still stapled in and can be found at the back of the folded book.

Edited July 16, 2022 by KirbyTown
got rid of "ackchyually"

[KPR Comics]

Isn’t Annual 2 square bound?  If so, do they use wraps or individual pages?

[KirbyTown]

On 7/16/2022 at 4:53 AM, KPR Comics said:

Isn’t Annual 2 square bound?  If so, do they use wraps or individual pages?

You're right, it's a square-bound! On square-bounds the manufacturer would use stacks of wraps, glue, and the cover around it all:

That's a 68-page Giant-Size Defenders #4 in the screen-cap. In this video, we witness the mad scientist introducing a belt sander to the spine's residual glue after cover removal. (video property of Rick Morgan, ImmaculateComics.com )

Edited July 17, 2022 by KirbyTown