g-man Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34473632/1952-topps-mickey-mantle-card-sells-126-million-shattering-record Edited August 28, 2022 by g-man ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robot Man Posted August 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2022 Well it is “that card” and the best known example. Nothing suprises me anymore. Kind of makes comics look like chump change… sagii, jimjum12, Cobbledclam and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I "collected" (using a loose definition) baseball cards in the mid- to late-60s and early 70s which all somehow got disappeared, maybe while I was at college. In any case it's weird to think I could probably have found this card for $10 somewhere if it had ever occurred to me it was a good idea. It was only 15 or so years old at the time. Good on the seller. jimjum12 and pirog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I have heard that Topps ended the year with a warehouse full of unsold product and paid a company to dump it at sea. Imagine scuba diving off the Jersey shore and coming across the site. The 1952 Topps set was quite small by todays standards and the Mantles are generally one per box, with twenty boxes in a case. Five hundred cases or more on a barge. pirog and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 That is some finish! Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 8:52 AM, Robot Man said: Well it is “that card” and the best known example. Nothing suprises me anymore. Not exactly sure how everybody quoted in that link can say definitiely that this SCG 9.5 graded card is the best when there are apparently also 3 PSA 10.0 Gem Mint graded copies of this card out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangology Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 11:44 PM, lou_fine said: Not exactly sure how everybody quoted in that link can say definitiely that this SCG 9.5 graded card is the best when there are apparently also 3 PSA 10.0 Gem Mint graded copies of this card out there. My understanding is that all of the high grade Mantles out there are supposed to be from the find referenced in the article. That Mr. Mint character identified this one as the "finest" of the bunch in a letter to the buyer after he had sold it in that 1991 transaction. PSA's grades have the same sort of uncertainty as CGC's grades, particularly when it comes to vintage. As an aside, there are/were detailed scans of the card on Heritage's site and I think SGC overgraded it. Modern cards do not receive that much leeway. It's in amazing condition and I have no reason to doubt it's the best one, but it has a number of flaws. jimjum12 and MAY1979 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microchip Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 1:52 AM, Robot Man said: Well it is “that card” and the best known example. Nothing suprises me anymore. Kind of makes comics look like chump change… With the recession coming, non-traditional investment options will be looking attractive. If we watch the fine arts market, comics/cards won't be too far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/28/2022 at 1:03 PM, shadroch said: I have heard that Topps ended the year with a warehouse full of unsold product and paid a company to dump it at sea. Imagine scuba diving off the Jersey shore and coming across the site. The 1952 Topps set was quite small by todays standards and the Mantles are generally one per box, with twenty boxes in a case. Five hundred cases or more on a barge. . Edited August 30, 2022 by James J Johnson FFB and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/29/2022 at 3:07 AM, Djangology said: My understanding is that all of the high grade Mantles out there are supposed to be from the find referenced in the article. That Mr. Mint character identified this one as the "finest" of the bunch in a letter to the buyer after he had sold it in that 1991 transaction. PSA's grades have the same sort of uncertainty as CGC's grades, particularly when it comes to vintage. As an aside, there are/were detailed scans of the card on Heritage's site and I think SGC overgraded it. Modern cards do not receive that much leeway. It's in amazing condition and I have no reason to doubt it's the best one, but it has a number of flaws. double posted Edited August 30, 2022 by James J Johnson namisgr and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Kids used to wrap their cards with rubber bands and Pasko was the first card, so many of his cards have damage as kids evidently kept their cards in numerical order. pirog, jimjum12 and deadleg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 11:44 PM, lou_fine said: Not exactly sure how everybody quoted in that link can say definitiely that this SCG 9.5 graded card is the best when there are apparently also 3 PSA 10.0 Gem Mint graded copies of this card out there. Apparently you can’t believe everything you read on the internet or in the news. People were obviously, seduced by the almighty dollar. As a kid in the very early ‘60’s, nobody wanted Mantle cards in my area. Kofax and Drysdale were king of the heap. Yankee cards usually ended up in bike spokes. I remember being given a full shoebox of early ‘50’s cards from my cousin. I often wonder if that card was in there… pirog and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 1:18 AM, Microchip said: With the recession coming, non-traditional investment options will be looking attractive. If we watch the fine arts market, comics/cards won't be too far behind. I recently set up at a vintage toy/advertising show. My sales were incredible. Prices have been dropping steadily on this stuff for years. I got very little price resistance. Even on “dead” character items. Microchip, jimjum12 and pirog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirog Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 8:47 AM, shadroch said: Kids used to wrap their cards with rubber bands and Pasko was the first card, so many of his cards have damage as kids evidently kept their cards in numerical order. Yep and they also put their cards in bicycle spokes to make a repetitive cardboard stuttering sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirog Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 10:22 AM, Robot Man said: Apparently you can’t believe everything you read on the internet or in the news. People were obviously, seduced by the almighty dollar. As a kid in the very early ‘60’s, nobody wanted Mantle cards in my area. Kofax and Drysdale were king of the heap. Yankee cards usually ended up in bike spokes. I remember being given a full shoebox of early ‘50’s cards from my cousin. I often wonder if that card was in there… Right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 7:34 AM, pirog said: Yep and they also put their cards in bicycle spokes to make a repetitive cardboard stuttering sound... Yep. The Giants and Yankee cards were usually the first victims in my hood. I spared the Willie Mays cards though. The dude was awsome in spite of the team he played for. My baseball cards went with my comics in the ages old practice of moms everywhere. But when my dad sold the house we grew up in, my dad called me about some stuff of mine in the basement. There I found my original Munsters lunch box. Inside it was packed with my monster and Mars Attacks cards. Complete with disingrated rubber bands. jimjum12, PopKulture, pirog and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmeta Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 One of my friends collected baseball cards many years ago. I think he has Nolan Ryan's rookie card but I don't think it's in great shape. Might still be worth a little something anyway. This Mickey Mantle card selling for $12.6 mill is an eye opener. Congrats to both buyer and seller. pirog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian48 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Was following the auction on this. It's a beautiful specimen. Even after all these years, the Mick still rules. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/29/2022 at 11:22 AM, musicmeta said: One of my friends collected baseball cards many years ago. I think he has Nolan Ryan's rookie card but I don't think it's in great shape. Might still be worth a little something anyway. This Mickey Mantle card selling for $12.6 mill is an eye opener. Congrats to both buyer and seller. They advertised it as the first 8 figure sale before the auction even began; clearly there was a guarantee in place. Not unreasonable to assume 10m guarantee net to the seller, meaning at 10.5 plus juice this realistically may well have been one bid above guarantee . Edited August 29, 2022 by Bronty jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/29/2022 at 3:28 PM, Bronty said: They advertised it as the first 8 figure sale before the auction even began; clearly there was a guarantee in place. Not unreasonable to assume 10m guarantee net to the seller, meaning at 10.5 plus juice this realistically may well have been one bid above reserve . Double posted in error Edited August 30, 2022 by James J Johnson FFB, Bronty, PopKulture and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...