815K1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Purchased a comic book. I couldn’t see in the picture that it had had the price cleaned from the white lettering. However it was clear as day when it was in front of me. Because the book has already been restored. It will get a restoration grade? Would it be worth the effort to do more restoration to enhance the aesthetic of the book? Given there are 12 methods of restoration to enhance the book. It already has 1 I can’t change, someone else has cleaned the price of the white they’ve removed the colour from the white but it’s permanent, it might look faded, but it’s still there you know what I mean? Should I pursue more restoration to enhance aesthetic appearance of the book? thanks for your input. Edited December 23, 2022 by 815K1 Lazyboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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815K1 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 10:31 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: Ok so this is the photos they had and the price was in the second O…faded but you would’ve missed it if you didn’t know what you were looking for. It had been cleaned 100% sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 10:31 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: The price in the O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Aesthetics are pretty subjective. How would one gauge it to be "worth it"? What are the financial aspects that go into it? How much is worth in its current state? How much would it be worth in its best restored state? How much would the restoration cost? What are the risks? Do you have profit incentive goals for your financial investment in restoration? Edited December 23, 2022 by revat Artboy99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) On 12/23/2022 at 2:46 PM, revat said: Aesthetics are pretty subjective. How would one gauge it to be "worth it"? What are the financial aspects that go into it? How much is worth in its current state? How much would it be worth in its best restored state? How much would the restoration cost? What are the risks? Do you have profit incentive goals for your financial investment in restoration? but also, as general rule, there are very very very very few restored books worth less than $300 that are worth PAYING SOMEONE to restore. Edited December 23, 2022 by revat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Here’s what you do.... Submit the book for a Roy Thomas signing & window bag the book so he signs right over it with big black sharpie It’s like restoration....but not 815K1, Mgc015 and JollyComics 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 3:46 PM, revat said: Aesthetics are pretty subjective. How would one gauge it to be "worth it"? What are the financial aspects that go into it? How much is worth in its current state? How much would it be worth in its best restored state? How much would the restoration cost? What are the risks? Do you have profit incentive goals for your financial investment in restoration? I have always respected the effort you make on these threads. Thank you for providing such sound advice. revat and KCOComics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) On 12/24/2022 at 8:46 AM, revat said: What are the financial aspects that go into it? How much is worth in its current state? How much would it be worth in its best restored state? How much would the restoration cost? What are the risks? Do you have profit incentive goals for your financial investment in restoration? What are financial aspects that go into it? idkwym. Without a grade it’s worth whatever someone is willing to pay! Best restored state,,,that could be achieved, maybe a 8.0 a harsh 6.5-7 that’s a purple label, it’s not gonna change much from what it is, the book is sound the cleaning is the issue… To colour touch some black is the only thing that might be worth doing. I ain’t paying for a colour touch. There’s no motive to profit, this is not an investment opportunity it’s merely a question about restoring a restoration. I would rather had technical answers than cash money incentives. Edited December 24, 2022 by 815K1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAL Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 12:39 AM, Stealth_Bomber said: I have no idea what you're talking about but that book's not worth restoring. If you think about the financial component, then restoration may not be needed. But there may be another motivation. 815K1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Why are you assuming it is restored? Is it just simple color loss due to aggressive dry cleaning? 815K1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Very simple to do is passing this book and looking for the better book. Behold, there are so many books you can pick with your confident feeling. 815K1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 11:04 PM, 815K1 said: What are financial aspects that go into it? idkwym. Without a grade it’s worth whatever someone is willing to pay! Best restored state,,,that could be achieved, maybe a 8.0 a harsh 6.5-7 that’s a purple label, it’s not gonna change much from what it is, the book is sound the cleaning is the issue… To colour touch some black is the only thing that might be worth doing. I ain’t paying for a colour touch. There’s no motive to profit, this is not an investment opportunity it’s merely a question about restoring a restoration. I would rather had technical answers than cash money incentives. He brought up financial aspects because restoration costs money. It can easily cost $300-$500 or more depending what you have done and who does the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowGradeBronze Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I wouldn't go down the resto route. It looks in nice enough shape bar the scrubbed area (which really doesn't show on screen) so I would learn to live with it. Not everything can be perfect. On my copy, Martin and Ben wrote their names as many times as they could in the white lettering. It makes it 'my' copy! 815K1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 2:32 AM, joeypost said: Why are you assuming it is restored? Merry Christmas bud, it’s still got the ghost of 30 or 35 cents in the second O. Next to the O there’s a oval mark that appears to be a loss of colour which may be related to a chemical that was used to clean the price out of the O. I’m just going by the CGC guide for restoration, and chemical cleaning is restoration, if detected and if I can spot it then they surely will. I would submit it as is if it wouldn’t get a purple label but since it will then for the presentation and aesthetic appearance I thought why not just make it more presentable. I don’t know how CGC scores a restoration I really need to understand that process a bit more but I don’t think grade matters in a purple book of this age as I’m not trying to sell it to make money or increase the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 7:22 AM, LowGradeBronze said: wrote their names I got a strange tales 118 with Ray Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 3:21 AM, JollyComics said: passing this book and looking for the better book. Indeed, a graded copy yes. A better overall copy…hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...