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TMNT and the flaws of #1
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The way the scoring works is so flawed

A person who spends 8 years daily searching and submitting to build an almost full 9.8 set  (including 1 of 4, 1 of 5 in the world ultra ultra rare issues etc) achieves 70 / 72   9.8's in the set   gets a score of 20000.

That person cannot afford a 1st issue #1   where the cheapest versions of a mid grade of the book are 30k  etc

A  ?collector?  buys a 9.2 copy of #1  -  doesn't work on or collect any of the other 73 titles - just a 9.2 of #1  and his score is 24000   (4k higher than someone who has obviously built a massively better set than a single purchase) -

Solution..

since this is a SET Collector's society   you should  make the official rank based on  % >9.8    achieved     on the set      so  a person who buys a 9.2 copy of issue 1 might be  #14 on the value ranking but  they are really un-ranked on the set collectors ranking   

 

I am just venting as I find it ridiculous that a person can buy a single book and be ranked higher than someone who has been building a full set for years and years LOL

 

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On 1/16/2023 at 10:46 AM, Magmar said:

The way the scoring works is so flawed

A person who spends 8 years daily searching and submitting to build an almost full 9.8 set  (including 1 of 4, 1 of 5 in the world ultra ultra rare issues etc) achieves 70 / 72   9.8's in the set   gets a score of 20000.

That person cannot afford a 1st issue #1   where the cheapest versions of a mid grade of the book are 30k  etc

A  ?collector?  buys a 9.2 copy of #1  -  doesn't work on or collect any of the other 73 titles - just a 9.2 of #1  and his score is 24000   (4k higher than someone who has obviously built a massively better set than a single purchase) -

Solution..

since this is a SET Collector's society   you should  make the official rank based on  % >9.8    achieved     on the set      so  a person who buys a 9.2 copy of issue 1 might be  #14 on the value ranking but  they are really un-ranked on the set collectors ranking   

 

I am just venting as I find it ridiculous that a person can buy a single book and be ranked higher than someone who has been building a full set for years and years LOL

 

This obviously only works for modern sets where full 9.8 runs are achievable -  silver and golden age sets would of course be based on a much lower grade threshold

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On 1/16/2023 at 9:46 AM, Magmar said:

The way the scoring works is so flawed

A person who spends 8 years daily searching and submitting to build an almost full 9.8 set  (including 1 of 4, 1 of 5 in the world ultra ultra rare issues etc) achieves 70 / 72   9.8's in the set   gets a score of 20000.

That person cannot afford a 1st issue #1   where the cheapest versions of a mid grade of the book are 30k  etc

A  ?collector?  buys a 9.2 copy of #1  -  doesn't work on or collect any of the other 73 titles - just a 9.2 of #1  and his score is 24000   (4k higher than someone who has obviously built a massively better set than a single purchase) -

Solution..

since this is a SET Collector's society   you should  make the official rank based on  % >9.8    achieved     on the set      so  a person who buys a 9.2 copy of issue 1 might be  #14 on the value ranking but  they are really un-ranked on the set collectors ranking   

 

I am just venting as I find it ridiculous that a person can buy a single book and be ranked higher than someone who has been building a full set for years and years LOL

 

This truly hits so close to home.  I have 98% of this set and all but 3 or 4 are 9.8 plus there are complete pictures and descriptions and I'm ranked 17th or 18th or something. 

I second this

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Sadly this is the way it is in registry - same in trading cards with PSA.

Registry's exist to increase revenue by having more common run of mill books slabbed.

While not foolproof this can be applied across the board ; grant bonus points when a full set, regardless of grade, is achieved. CGC does not do this neither does PSA so probably reasons?

 

 

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Please see this post regarding my thoughts on scoring in the Registry:

 

After this Year's Awards, I plan on implementing major changes to the Registry structure.

Some of the changes I am planning are not going to be popular, but I feel they are necessary.

My intention is to make set scoring more dependent on completion percentage, set detail, and photographs, as opposed to having 2 or 3 keys/grails.

 

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On 1/18/2023 at 12:54 PM, wytshus said:

Please see this post regarding my thoughts on scoring in the Registry:

 

After this Year's Awards, I plan on implementing major changes to the Registry structure.

Some of the changes I am planning are not going to be popular, but I feel they are necessary.

My intention is to make set scoring more dependent on completion percentage, set detail, and photographs, as opposed to having 2 or 3 keys/grails.

 

Hey thanks for this!  And appreciate CGC hearing and responding.  Cheers!

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On 1/18/2023 at 12:54 PM, wytshus said:

Please see this post regarding my thoughts on scoring in the Registry:

 

After this Year's Awards, I plan on implementing major changes to the Registry structure.

Some of the changes I am planning are not going to be popular, but I feel they are necessary.

My intention is to make set scoring more dependent on completion percentage, set detail, and photographs, as opposed to having 2 or 3 keys/grails.

 

You mean that's going to help individual completion score sets right? In this case TMNT only?

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