Surfer66 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Hello and thank you for your help grading this Joker #1. It looks like a nice clean book w/ white pages but has a stain on the back cover edge. Can you please share your thoughts on the grade with the stain and w/o the stain? I would like to learn how a stain of this severity affects the grade. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 4:37 AM, Pukie said: It looks like a nice clean book w/ white pages but has a stain on the back cover edge. Can you please share your thoughts on the grade with the stain and w/o the stain? I would like to learn how a stain of this severity affects the grade. Thank you. Is this the "stain" you're referring to? I'm pretty sure it's just a touch of stray ink from the date stamp. No effect on the condition grade of this book. scburdet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer66 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) The stain I saw was at the top edge of the back cover. But your date stamp clarification is most helpful. Where it came from and what affect it has on the grade - Thank you. I have seen this on several books but never knew what it was. Edited February 2, 2023 by Pukie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Without the stain I think the book has a chance in the 8.0-8.5 range BUT with the stain, I think 7.0 is more likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowGradeBronze Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Looks 8.0 to me. The date stamp won't affect grade at all. They are really quite common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 8:39 AM, LowGradeBronze said: Looks 8.0 to me. The date stamp won't affect grade at all. They are really quite common. Date stamp won't but this fairly large stain is....not often a book gets above 7.0-7.5 with such a stain Dr. Balls and LowGradeBronze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowGradeBronze Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Apologies, I hadn't clocked the stain, I was distracted by the date stamp/ink smudge. You're right: I revise to 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I had the book at about a 9.0 without taking the stain into consideration. 7.0 with it. Were it discolored the grade deduction would be more severe. A C&P may help the grade slightly. There won't be a grade deduction for the date stamp. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I was looking on my phone when you first posted, but I thought I could see the stain along the top. It's clearer on my laptop. I agree with the 7.0/7.5 consensus. CGC just doesn't tolerate staining & (IMO) penalizes stains that aren't obtrusive (i.e. light, on the back cover) a bit too harshly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer66 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 Thank you for sharing your expertise everyone. I learned a lot. grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff2099 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Stains, unfortunately crush grades. I'll go 7.5 but I'm a sucker for a date stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephistopheles Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8.5 no stain, 7.5 with. A good presser may be able to pull some of the stain out with a peroxide treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...