Black Bat Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I've wanted a nice copy of this forever, but the bug chew on the back cover scared me. A beauty otherwise. What would you grade this as- it sold for almost $4000. Good buy? There maybe slight slight rust on the staples too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars76 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Thankfully that bug chew is on the BC. I've never seen this book before but that is some cool artwork and the colors look great. Looks like a 4.5-5.0 to me, but it presents much nicer as we like to say😁 Edited March 9, 2023 by Mars76 Black Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Bat Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 4:53 PM, Mars76 said: Thankfully that bug chew is on the BC. I've never seen this book before but that is some cool artwork and the colors look great. Looks like a 4.5-5.0 to me, but it presents much nicer like we like to say😁 That's LB Cole on the cover art- check him out! All time classic golden age. Mars76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4.5/5.0 Thanks for posting. Black Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 stain plus the chew has be around 5.0 although the latter is hard to assess in photos. Whether it's a good investment is hard to say since there are not a lot of sales for comparison Black Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt hook Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I'd nudge it a tad higher, 5.5 maybe 6.0 Black Bat and Point Five 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 12:28 AM, scburdet said: latter is hard to assess in photos Piece missing is consistent with a 5.0 ceiling. Maybe 5.5 since it's the back cover. It will matter if they ding the stain too, or just go with that defect being consistent with accumulation at 5.0 Black Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Bat Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 8:11 AM, scburdet said: Piece missing is consistent with a 5.0 ceiling. Maybe 5.5 since it's the back cover. It will matter if they ding the stain too, or just go with that defect being consistent with accumulation at 5.0 If the stain you're referring to is the discoloration at top of spine back cover, that's actually more paper missing from bug chew... which probably doesn't help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Ah, OK. The way CGC handles defects is to start with the one that is the most severe and sort of works backwards more or less. There's even a little grid of what defects are allowable at certain grades and relative impact in their new book. Like if the cover is detached, you start at a 3.0* so a normal amount of handling wear doesn't further reduce the grade (*unless it's an otherwise perfect book & gets a Qualified grade). It's still a little bit of a black box, but stains and missing pieces are two of the most impactful defects & both based on area. Could be as low as a 3.0-5.0 is sort of the range for where a 1"×1" piece would be closer to 3.0. Of course, it being the back cover helps b/c the aesthetic are not impacted as much. IMO anything less than a 4.0 would be a miscarriage of justice. Black Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I've seen chips that big get a 6.5 and stains that big get 7.0. But adding the two together I think the highest you could hope for would be 6.0, and that might be a stretch. Sure presents better though. Mars76, Black Bat and Point Five 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5.0 seems right. As it is a GA book and presents infinitely time better, they might get it up to a 6.0 Black Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...