PGM - Marvel Team-Up 141 - Color Break at Staple - Does size matter? 2 2

[Shaggy37]

Hey guys. A newbie here - I have a book I am looking at with the smallest of color breaks. The break is adjacent to the staple. The book is currently a 9.6 but I thinks that is due to about 4-6 non breaking ticks on the spine (I counted 4 on the back cover and a couple on the front). I was hoping to buy this, crack it and have the pressable defects pressed out and then resubmit and hope for a 9.8. The only issue is the color break at the staple. Thoughts on if this would affect it from getting a 9.8. It so small and adjacent to the staple hoping this is not a deal breaker. I will take all comments as a learning experience so be as harsh as you want.  

Edited March 16, 2023 by Shaggy37
Updated the post to align with forum requirements.

[Shaggy37]

Thanks for letting me know. Looking for ppl on the forum to educate me. 

[grendelbo]

Any grader's notes? Probably not for a 9.6. Getting a higher grade would be a toss of a coin.

[SolidShredder]

On 3/16/2023 at 8:49 PM, grendelbo said:

Any grader's notes? Probably not for a 9.6. Getting a higher grade would be a toss of a coin.

I agree it's basically up to chance. I don't think the tiny abrasion by the staple would necessarily stop a book from getting a 9.8 but at those high grades you might crack it and get a lower grade. Although, looking at gocollect, the prices don't shoot up until you hit a 9.8. So, if you crack it and it comes back a 9.4 you don't really loose much. It's up to you if it's worth your time and money to roll the dice. 

Edited March 17, 2023 by SolidShredder

[Shaggy37]

Thanks grendelbo and SolidShredder for your feedback. Not any closer to making a decision at this time - book is currently priced within current gocollect FMV prices for a 9.6. I really want a 9.8 of this in my collection to go with my lower grade raw copy that I can touch. If I grab it I will give an update. 

[Shaggy37]

Oh and grendelbo, sorry forgot to answer your question - no unfortunately no grader notes on this 9.6. 

[Shaggy37]

Update. I did purchase the book. Once I have it in hand I will take pics and post them prior to cracking the case. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by Shaggy37

[Still Only 35c]

On 3/20/2023 at 2:29 PM, Shaggy37 said:

Update. I did purchase the book. Once I have it in hand I will take pics and post them prior to cracking the case. 

9.6 is still a good grade; but good luck (as others have stated, probably a coin toss as is). Are there any other pressable defects?

[LowGradeBronze]

A lot of work to go to in the hope of maybe getting 9.8 so why not just bypass all that stress and time not to mention money, and just buy a 9.8? Can't see the value in going the long way round to (maybe) getting a 9.8

Edit: ignore my ramblings as I now see you've bought the book. Good luck and let us know how it turns out!

Edited March 21, 2023 by LowGradeBronze

[Shaggy37]

@LowGradeBronze - Just thought I would share my thoughts on the risk vs reward. I was able to get the 9.6 Newsstand for a little under FMV. The 9.8’s for MTU 141 appear to be rarer (census wise) and are double the current FMV. The rarity to find it for sale is most likely based on ppl wanting to keep for there PC and it’s  been difficult to find on ebay/Shortbox or locally (in Toronto Canada - so there are eBay listing for just the US audience that I may never see) at a price I would be willing to pay. I have a list of books I want to upgrade from my PC and then thin out my entire collection as I only want to leave things to my kids that they could keep (crossing fingers) or they could easily divest (damn kids!!! -  ). A 9.8 would be better than a 9.6 but in the end if I end up with a 9.6 I will still be happy and keep for my PC. 

[LowGradeBronze]

On 3/22/2023 at 6:50 PM, Shaggy37 said:

@LowGradeBronzeA 9.8 would be better than a 9.6 but in the end if I end up with a 9.6 I will still be happy and keep for my PC. 

Understood, especially since after editing my post I went to see what the price difference was between the two! Quite a shock! I now get why why you would be prepared to go the 'long way round' to seek the grail grade! Good luck 

 

[Geoff2099]

I'd say you have a 50/50 shot at a 9.8. I think it's unlikely to come back lower than a 9.6, so the risk/reward equation works out. Good luck!

[Nschenks]

If that is the only CB mark on the book and there aren't any/many other non-pressable defects, you definitely have a shot at 9.8. But yeah kind of a coin flip. If you keep submitting, you'll likely eventually end up with a 9.8. Obviously, there's a risk there (handling, etc.), so it's up to you! FWIW I've seen many 9.8's with significantly worse CB ticks, and yours is small and by the staple, both of which should help. I'd take a very close look when you get the book, to make sure there isn't something else you're missing, such as color rub, tiny tears, blunted corners, etc. 9.8 is a spectrum like any other grade, which unfortunately (and inevitably) has fairly significant overlap with 9.6 (low 9.8's versus high 9.6's). My advice would be to scan as many slabbed 9.6's and 9.8's of the same book on eBay or some other venue and note the common differences, if you can see any, focusing on the listings with high quality images of FC and BC. Good luck!