wytshus Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 This is the place to request that scores in the CGC Registry competitive scores be evaluated. You may have slight disagreements with scores, but some of those slight disagreements just boil down to a judgment call. What we're looking for here are clearly incorrect scoring examples. When making requests, please use full title of the book and publish date, also, certificate numbers help immensely. Start with the key issues that you feel need the attention the most. Please avoid requests like "Update all scores in X-Men (1963)." Please note: Scores are loosely based on Fair Market Value. CGC does not set prices for comic books in the open market. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comic scores do not equate to market dollars. A more valuable book will in most cases receive more Registry points, but its score is not directly correlated to its value. The algorithm is also designed to enhance and encourage competition in the Registry by reducing extremes in value differences between grades and categories. For this reason a very valuable book may receive fewer points than might be expected, or a relatively common book will receive more points than might otherwise be expected. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If it is determined that a score needs to be adjusted, it will be scored according to Overstreet Access' 9.2 value. Also, please focus on single book. For example, Upgrades that are under valued in points, not 700-800 books that need to go up one point. *Posts that have been edited after the original posting date will be skipped and not revisited. Meaning, if you add more to your request at a later date, I will not fulfill it. Your request will be ignored and you need to resubmit your request. In short, don't try to skip others. Make a new post for your new requests, don't add to the old one. ***If the score simply has a “0” just PM me and I will fix it.**** Thank you for your patience and participation in the registry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Hi, as I had mentioned to you way back via PM, pls increase scores for Detective Comics 36. Grade for grade it has less points than Detective 37. 36 has 1st Hugo Strange, 37 is last preRobin. Also 36 will mostly sell for more than 37 in any grade. Thx for considering. Scores adjusted for #25 and #37 per Overstreet Access 9.2 wytshus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddesden33 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Hi Brian Assuming we're going to benchmark future registry scores against Overstreet 9.2 values then I've identified a number of books where there there is currently a variance of circa 50% or more between registry 9.2 points and current Overstreet (Volume 52) value in that grade. As such I'd be grateful if you could review registry points on the following books. Many thanks for considering. Title #'s Current Registry Points for Universal 9.2 grade Current Overstreet (Vol. 52) value for 9.2 grade ($) Amazing Spider-man (1963) 2 15000 25000 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 3 14700 25000 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 4 7500 16000 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 14 9000 15000 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 30 500 800 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 31 2875 4000 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 90 210 350 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 101 1125 2500 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 119 135 225 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 120 135 225 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 123 75 190 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 125 75 180 Amazing Spider-man (1963) 126-128 75 115 Avengers (1963) 4 8500 12000 Avengers (1963) 8 2750 4200 Avengers (1963) 10 825 1200 Avengers (1963) 19 428 800 Avengers (1963) 47 338 800 Avengers (1963) 54 150 275 Avengers (1963) 67 128 195 Avengers (1963) 70 250 400 Avengers (1963) 80 113 175 Avengers Annual (1967) 1 210 310 Avengers Annual (1967) 2 158 210 Captain America (1968) 109 150 400 Captain America (1968) 112 85 150 Captain America (1968) 118 150 300 Captain America (1968) 137-138 50 75 Captain America (1968) 141-142 30 50 Captain America (1968) 143 45 60 Captain Marvel (1968) 2 75 150 Captain Marvel (1968) 3, 5 60 100 Captain Marvel (1968) 14 45 75 Daredevil (1964) 6 563 1000 Daredevil (1964) 16 540 1100 Daredevil (1964) 18 278 400 Daredevil (1964) 43 150 220 Daredevil (1964) 81 98 150 Doctor Strange (1968) 170 98 225 Doctor Strange (1968) 171-174, 176 98 160 Doctor Strange (1968) 182, 183 90 140 Fantastic Four (1961) 5 35250 75000 Fantastic Four (1961) 25 2250 4000 Fantastic Four (1961) 33 675 1000 Fantastic Four (1961) 45 2250 3800 Fantastic Four (1961) 46 975 2000 Fantastic Four (1961) 50 3282 7000 Fantastic Four (1961) 52 5550 10000 Fantastic Four (1961) 53 525 725 Fantastic Four (1961) 64 210 350 Fantastic Four (1961) 66 518 800 Fantastic Four (1961) 67 1500 2200 Fantastic Four (1961) 72 400 1000 Fantastic Four (1961) 74 263 400 Fantastic Four (1961) 75 300 600 Fantastic Four Annual (1963) 1 2100 5000 Giant-Size X-Men (1975) 1 7500 10000 Incredible Hulk (1968) 105 165 275 Incredible Hulk (1968) 128 57 85 Incredible Hulk (1968) 131 57 95 Incredible Hulk Annual (1968) 1 840 1200 Iron Man (1968) 17 98 200 Journey into Mystery (1952) 85 10500 24000 Marvel Collectors' Item Classics (1965) 1 210 320 Marvel Super-Heroes (1967) 13 1800 3200 Marvel Super-Heroes (1967) 15 90 135 Marvel Super-Heroes (1967) 17 425 900 Marvel Super-Heroes (1967) 20 600 950 Sgt. Fury (1963) 1 9900 30000 Strange Tales (1951) 111 1500 3000 Strange Tales (1951) 115 1875 3500 Strange Tales (1951) 126 975 2500 Sub-Mariner (1968) 5 443 750 Sub-Mariner (1968) 35 143 210 Tales of Asgard (1968) 1 98 160 Tales of Suspense (1959) 52 4050 10000 Tales of Suspense (1959) 53 863 1500 Tales of Suspense (1959) 57 3450 8000 Tales of Suspense (1959) 94 600 1000 Tales to Astonish (1959) 49 938 1650 Tales to Astonish (1959) 52 600 1000 Tales to Astonish (1959) 62 600 1000 Tales to Astonish (1959) 63 338 800 Tales to Astonish (1959) 93 488 1400 Thor (1966) 127, 128, 130 160 245 Thor (1966) 132 140 210 Thor (1966) 146, 147 110 175 Thor (1966) 148 250 400 Thor (1966) 149 110 200 Thor (1966) 151, 152 90 155 Thor (1966) 168 585 900 Thor (1966) 169 338 500 Thor (1966) 182, 183 45 90 Thor (1966) 184, 186-192 45 70 Thor (1966) 193 160 250 Tomb of Dracula (1972) 10 3250 5000 Werewolf by Night (1972) 1 400 600 X-Men (1963) 1 112500 180000 X-Men (1963) 12 2625 8000 X-Men (1963) 28 575 950 X-Men (1963) 35 638 975 X-Men (1963) 49 846 1200 X-Men (1963) 52 255 400 X-Men (1963) 58 500 1200 Scores adjusted per Overstreet Access 9.2 wytshus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocGo Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Hello, I think the Bartcode variant for Simpson Comics #1 (1993) should have their scores increased (example cert #2686635005). According to my records, they consistently sell for 4 times what the regular cover goes for so I would multiply the current Simpsons Comics #1 score by 4. Unfortunately, GPA never made a note about which sales were for the Bartcode variants until CGC included the multipack label last October. There have been two 9.8 sales in the last year for unmarked Universal Bartcode variants in 9.8: $796 on 5/30/22 (0002617015) and $835 on 3/5/23 (3856876004). Regular versions in 9.8 generally go for $125-$175 in the same time frame. There have only been two sales of marked Bartcode variants: 8.0 Signature Series for $200 on 1/2/23 (2725533010) and 9.0 Signature Series for $300 on 1/7/23 (2725533011). I’m fairly certain that Overstreet won’t have a 9.2 value for this multipack variant so I thought this data would help. Let me know if you have any questions or if I missed anything. Thanks! All variants for #1 show as 40 for 9.2 in Overstreet. I have adjusted the score for that variant and the first run issue accordingly. wytshus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violent-Delights Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Score adjustment for individual books in Something is Killing the Children (Complete) The following books are due for a score adjustment based on rarity, desirability, and market value. I have put them in order starting with the books that are most in need of a score change (in my opinion). #1 ALA Midwinter Edition, 2020 - 3902953001 #6 Frison Sketch Cover, 2020 - 3755713010 #8 Variant Cover, 2020 - 2612672001 #1 Black Cape Comics Edition, 2019 - 3712605015 #1 NYCC Diamond Retailer Edition, 2019 - 2653294002 #1 New York Comic Con Edition, 2019 - 3730931008 #3 Second Print, 2020 - 3828075023 #7 Variant Cover, 2020 - 3730466015 #11 Lee Sketch Cover, 2020 - 3777712025 #11 Simmonds Variant Cover, 2020 - 3755713006 Those are the biggies. Please let me know if you need me to add anything. Thanks for considering them. js Scores adjusted per Overstreet Access 9.2 wytshus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celluloidbuff Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Really minor one here, and I truly think it was just a typo. Could you look at the score for Star Wars (2020) #30 Action Figure Variant Cover? It's currently listed as 12 points when other blue label 9.8 action figure variants from same collection usually are given 32 registry points. Have a small screen shot to show comparisons for comics around that issue. Yup, that was a typo. Fixed now, thanks for letting me know. wytshus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 The scores for Static #44 (DC/Milestone) are significantly lower than all of the surrounding issues. https://comics.www.collectors-society.com/registry/comics/SlotScoreDetail.aspx?SlotID=249701 Score adjusted per request, that was another typo, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocGo Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 1:58 PM, docgo said: Hello, I think the Bartcode variant for Simpson Comics #1 (1993) should have their scores increased (example cert #2686635005). According to my records, they consistently sell for 4 times what the regular cover goes for so I would multiply the current Simpsons Comics #1 score by 4. Unfortunately, GPA never made a note about which sales were for the Bartcode variants until CGC included the multipack label last October. There have been two 9.8 sales in the last year for unmarked Universal Bartcode variants in 9.8: $796 on 5/30/22 (0002617015) and $835 on 3/5/23 (3856876004). Regular versions in 9.8 generally go for $125-$175 in the same time frame. There have only been two sales of marked Bartcode variants: 8.0 Signature Series for $200 on 1/2/23 (2725533010) and 9.0 Signature Series for $300 on 1/7/23 (2725533011). I’m fairly certain that Overstreet won’t have a 9.2 value for this multipack variant so I thought this data would help. Let me know if you have any questions or if I missed anything. Thanks! All variants for #1 show as 40 for 9.2 in Overstreet. I have adjusted the score for that variant and the first run issue accordingly. You can’t separate the scores for the two? At the moment, the score for the multipack is exactly the same as the regular edition but you did increase both. I was hoping the multipack would increase to the current score with the regular edition staying the same (was 70 for a 9.8 signature). Thanks! I do not have access to weighted scores, only Universal. Can you take a few screen shots of the weighted score table for that issue? Also, keep in mind that I am no longer basing Universal Scores on auction sales. wytshus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocGo Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 On 4/26/2023 at 9:56 PM, docgo said: You can’t separate the scores for the two? At the moment, the score for the multipack is exactly the same as the regular edition but you did increase both. I was hoping the multipack would increase to the current score with the regular edition staying the same (was 70 for a 9.8 signature). Thanks! I do not have access to weighted scores, only Universal. Can you take a few screen shots of the weighted score table for that issue? Also, keep in mind that I am no longer basing Universal Scores on auction sales. I just wanted to demonstrate that the Bartcode version of the book should be a higher score than the regular edition and suggested that it be about four times greater. You increased the scores for both books to 40 points at 9.2. I think the previous score for the regular edition of Simpsons Comics #1 was 10 points at 9.2. I suggest that you change this one back to 10 at 9.2 and keep the Simpsons Comics #1 Bartcode score where it is right now (40 at 9.2). Also, the Bartcode edition of Simpsons Comics #1 does not exist in the Bongo (Complete) set. Please add it when you get a chance. Thanks for all your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytshus Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 Closing this thread. I will reopen this thread October 1st I will fulfill the remaining requests now. If I did not fulfill your request, or if a scoring table isn't populated, Please DM me or email me at: brogiers@collectiblesgroup.com Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
