JBell60 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Have few comics I will be submitting in the Unlimited tier (each will have a $3k+ FMV). Paranoid about shipping, insurance, etc Any recommendations on carriers? I have obtained some Gemini boxes and packing and also have a CGC ship kit coming. Just looking for the best way to handle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 If the cost to insure them for shipping exceeds the price of a round-trip airline ticket, it seems like there is an obvious solution. Brock, ExNihilo, Slayah and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action252Kid Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 10:48 AM, JBell60 said: Have few comics I will be submitting in the Unlimited tier (each will have a $3k+ FMV). Paranoid about shipping, insurance, etc Any recommendations on carriers? I have obtained some Gemini boxes and packing and also have a CGC ship kit coming. Just looking for the best way to handle this. USPS Express Mail, can insure for $5k. Or do Registered Mail, can insure for up to $25k, but it's notoriously slow and the tracking will often go days without updating - so you'll drive yourself a bit crazy for up to a week or two while it's in transit. Gonzimodo and Lightning55 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WernerVonDoom Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Send USPS registered mail for best security. You'll need some paper tape to seal the seams. Lightning55 and Gonzimodo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning55 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I'd go with Registered, as previously mentioned. And over-pack it. From inside to out: book, padding, box, more padding, outer box. Don't take any chances. And yes, no plastic tape, paper tape only. They have to have a paper surface to red stamp all over it as security detection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnd1 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 11:05 AM, Action252Kid said: USPS Express Mail, can insure for $5k. Or do Registered Mail, can insure for up to $25k, but it's notoriously slow and the tracking will often go days without updating - so you'll drive yourself a bit crazy for up to a week or two while it's in transit. Agreed... either of these is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 9:51 AM, shadroch said: If the cost to insure them for shipping exceeds the price of a round-trip airline ticket, it seems like there is an obvious solution. Larryw7, Poutine and RockMyAmadeus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Registered mail for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The last time I tried to send a 100K book from Arizona to NY, I was quoted almost a thousand dollars for shipping and insuring. A round-trip ticket was $400, and the books never left my sight. Gonzimodo, ExNihilo and musicmeta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mattn792 Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 5:13 PM, shadroch said: The last time I tried to send a 100K book from Arizona to NY, I was quoted almost a thousand dollars for shipping and insuring. A round-trip ticket was $400, and the books never left my sight. OK, now that you’ve tried to impress everyone by waving your wang at yet another thread, let’s get back to giving the OP real advice. For example - @JBell60, registered is also significantly cheaper than Express. As long as you’re not in a time crunch on getting the books turned around from CGC, registered should be your best bet. sergex23, Larryw7, RockMyAmadeus and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmeta Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The thing I worry about with all shipping carriers is what "IF" something does go wrong in getting the books there. Damaged? Lost?(This seems straight forward and should be easy to get reimbursed)...Will USPS honor the insurance you paid for and reimburse you for your high dollar value books..ie. let's choose 20K as an example. Is it that cut and dry in filing a claim? (Now, I hope nobody has had to do this for a large amount like over $5,000+ ). I remember having to file a claim for a $100 book and I had to wait 3 months to get my money. Be it $100 or $10,000 is still just a 3 month wait for USPS anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) On 7/24/2023 at 3:38 PM, musicmeta said: The thing I worry about with all shipping carriers is what "IF" something does go wrong in getting the books there. Damaged? Lost?(This seems straight forward and should be easy to get reimbursed)...Will USPS honor the insurance you paid for and reimburse you for your high dollar value books..ie. let's choose 20K as an example. Is it that cut and dry in filing a claim? (Now, I hope nobody has had to do this for a large amount like over $5,000+ ). I remember having to file a claim for a $100 book and I had to wait 3 months to get my money. Be it $100 or $10,000 is still just a 3 month wait for USPS anyway? What price is peace of mind? Right now, the delivery services are using a lot of summer help and in the not-so-distant future, they'll be hiring Christmas help. Do you want your book sitting in an unconditioned truck as we navigate record heat? From the one time I dealt with the post office insurance system, I was glad I was shipping omnibi and the like because I don't think they'd have grasped the value of a 9.4 vs 9.8. It wasn't easy collecting., and I needed to get MCS involved three times. The occasion a package was lost was much easier to collect. Edited July 24, 2023 by shadroch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAHokie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 6:30 PM, mattn792 said: OK, now that you’ve tried to impress everyone by waving your wang at yet another thread, let’s get back to giving the OP real advice. To be fair there wasn’t enough action in the veiled Florida/Disney thread to stay occupied. mattn792 and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 3:30 PM, mattn792 said: OK, now that you’ve tried to impress everyone by waving your wang at yet another thread, let’s get back to giving the OP real advice. For example - @JBell60, registered is also significantly cheaper than Express. As long as you’re not in a time crunch on getting the books turned around from CGC, registered should be your best bet. He asked about shipping hi value books. Feel free to share your experiences with them. How long did your last Registered book take to get there and what did it cost? Isn't postal insurance around $1.5 per $100? Even if it isn't the cheapest option, hand-delivering books of great worth is worth it for peace of mind. Gonzimodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WernerVonDoom Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 If you buy a book from a seller and its damaged, USPS insurance is very quick to repay you. They have the exact value and its easy. If you are sending raw books to CGC that is going to be tough to get full value from any insurer. So your best bet is to reduce the chance of them being lost/stolen/damaged in the first place, which would be USPS registered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 5:25 PM, WernerVonDoom said: If you buy a book from a seller and its damaged, USPS insurance is very quick to repay you. They have the exact value and its easy. If you are sending raw books to CGC that is going to be tough to get full value from any insurer. So your best bet is to reduce the chance of them being lost/stolen/damaged in the first place, which would be USPS registered. I don't think it is that simple. Send a Spidey 1 thru the mail and claim it went from an 8.0 to a 4.0 and is now worth $15,000 less and see how quickly they pay out. Small claims they pay out as it isn't worth investigating. Shipping insurance generally sucks and is filled with unexpected pitfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 https://www.usps.com/ship/insurance-extra-services.htm Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WernerVonDoom Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 5:38 PM, shadroch said: I don't think it is that simple. Send a Spidey 1 thru the mail and claim it went from an 8.0 to a 4.0 and is now worth $15,000 less and see how quickly they pay out. Small claims they pay out as it isn't worth investigating. Shipping insurance generally sucks and is filled with unexpected pitfalls. Well, I wasn't thinking of a purchased $15,000 raw book. Does that even happen anymore? Slabs will show damage - USPS will keep the book, buy you should get your purchase price on a slab. But yeah, raw books either way are difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 6:45 PM, shadroch said: He asked about shipping hi value books. Feel free to share your experiences with them. How long did your last Registered book take to get there and what did it cost? Isn't postal insurance around $1.5 per $100? Even if it isn't the cheapest option, hand-delivering books of great worth is worth it for peace of mind. And whoosh goes the point. CAHokie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) Get a policy with Collectibles Insursnce. Then mail via FedEx Signature. If something starts to go wrong you can deal with a human being in real time. Simply impossible with USPS. Edited July 25, 2023 by Dr. Love electricprune and MBFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
