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On 10/2/2023 at 8:52 PM, MrBedrock said:

I like the character of Superman a little better than Captain Marvel but I am not anywhere near old enough to answer the second part of that question.

Didn’t think you were that old! Just wanted to get your feel for which of the two was more popular and why? May need to ask Parker since he may have bought them off the stand. 

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On 10/2/2023 at 8:54 PM, SuperBat5000 said:

Interesting questions! There are a few Youtube videos on the history of Captain Marvel that mention this.   Superman had a float in the NY Macy's Thanksgiving Parade in 1940: https://macysthanksgiving.fandom.com/wiki/Superman along with the radio show series, and 1942 cartoons, so he was widely popular. If I recall correctly the Captain Marvel and Marvel Family comics began to out sell Superman (and Action?) comics in the early 1940's, and then a Captain Marvel movie series in 1941: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033317/  So my guess is that they were tied in popularity in the 1940s! 

This is a well made video!  

 

 

Thanks! 
I’m interested in further exploring the question of who was more popular? Captain Marvel or Superman? I doubt DC would have sued Fawcett if Captain Marvel wasn’t so popular at the time.

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On 10/2/2023 at 8:54 PM, SuperBat5000 said:

Interesting questions! There are a few Youtube videos on the history of Captain Marvel that mention this.   Superman had a float in the NY Macy's Thanksgiving Parade in 1940: https://macysthanksgiving.fandom.com/wiki/Superman along with the radio show series, and 1942 cartoons, so he was widely popular. If I recall correctly the Captain Marvel and Marvel Family comics began to out sell Superman (and Action?) comics in the early 1940's, and then a Captain Marvel movie series in 1941: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033317/  So my guess is that they were tied in popularity in the 1940s! 

This is a well made video!  

 

 

Check out this article -it appears that Captain Marvel was in the 1940's    https://screenrant.com/shazam-captain-marvel-outsold-superman/#:~:text=Captain Marvel routinely outsold Superman,rarely sell over 100%2C000 copies).

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On 10/2/2023 at 9:40 PM, SuperBat5000 said:

DC shut Siegel and Schuster down for many years. Did C.C. Beck experience a similar fate? Captain Marvel was Beck’s version of Bill Parker’s conceived superhero and his career as a comic book artist- arguably the most influential of the Golden Age given the popularity of Captain Marvel and his trademark cartoonish art. I know Beck went on and left comics but it’s important to know what happened. We collectors enjoy the books but it can be a superficial journey if the history around the characters and creators is forgotten. Sure, the art stands on its own but the history is also needed to give additional meaning to this art form. 
 

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On 10/2/2023 at 9:59 PM, bronze johnny said:

DC shut Siegel and Schuster down for many years. Did C.C. Beck experience a similar fate? Captain Marvel was Beck’s version of Bill Parker’s conceived superhero and his career as a comic book artist- arguably the most influential of the Golden Age given the popularity of Captain Marvel and his trademark cartoonish art. I know Beck went on and left comics but it’s important to know what happened. We collectors enjoy the books but it can be a superficial journey if the history around the characters and creators is forgotten. Sure, the art stands on its own but the history is also needed to give additional meaning to this art form. 
 

That's interesting history too, yep these books are going way back in time now over 80 years ago..

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On 10/3/2023 at 5:33 AM, SuperBat5000 said:

That's interesting history too, yep these books are going way back in time now over 80 years ago..

Beck’s response in an interview on how lawsuit affected him:

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