SpineTic Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Edited November 9, 2023 by SpineTic The humble Watcher lurking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerReader Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I’m surprised there isn’t more discussion on this. Very interesting, but also very predictable state of the market. SpineTic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpineTic Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 3:30 PM, FormerReader said: I’m surprised there isn’t more discussion on this. Very interesting, but also very predictable state of the market. Crickets i think a lot of people got burned. Jimmy Linguini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerReader Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 12:21 PM, szav said: All the NFT/collectibles/stimulus related insanity going on in the covid era aside, it still blows my mind how much money people spent on these not really knowing how many copies of pristine unsold/unopened of all these games are out there. Early 90s a friend of mine's family owned a computer store that sold a lot of PC and console games and they always had crates of unsold games sitting in the back of the store. I think we are still a long long way away from knowing where prices will really settle. I grew up during the golden age of gaming but I won't touch these as collectibles for another 10 or 20 years if ever. I agree on several of your points. I think it will be many years before that market settles after the alleged manipulation. I’m shocked people couldn’t see what was happening, but I suppose money makes people lose their sense. SpineTic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla43 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Retro game market is doing just fine. People are buying retro games and playing them SpineTic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transplant Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 11:21 AM, szav said: All the NFT/collectibles/stimulus related insanity going on in the covid era aside, it still blows my mind how much money people spent on these not really knowing how many copies of pristine unsold/unopened of all these games are out there. Early 90s a friend of mine's family owned a computer store that sold a lot of PC and console games and they always had crates of unsold games sitting in the back of the store. I think we are still a long long way away from knowing where prices will really settle. I grew up during the golden age of gaming but I won't touch these as collectibles for another 10 or 20 years if ever. I'd add to that: distrust of whether some of the "record sales" were real to begin with. szucchini and Jimmy Linguini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryHansen Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) On 11/8/2023 at 8:12 PM, SpineTic said: And the situation is understandable. There are so many new games, which are better - with better quality, plot, and just the variety is much bigger so everyone can choose something they like. I also liked retro games, but now I'm more into new ones, and I also like casino games. If someone here is into gambling too, here is one amazing page https://gamblizard.ca/best-canadian-online-casinos/casino-payment-options/paysafecard-casinos/ which provides detailed and accurate info on casinos that accept PaySafeCard. I've been playing with a few with such payment methods for a while, and I really like it. Everything is easy, and the games are great too. This is a very interesting video, thanks for posting. I'm not that interested in retro games, but still it was interesting to watch Edited December 1, 2023 by JerryHansen SpineTic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Cataldo Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Glad I sold my Atari 2600 collection when I did. I made out VERY well. This is an older pic that doesn't show the boxed systems or loose games. Edited December 2, 2023 by Chip Cataldo badback83, 1950's war comics and szucchini 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I am “awww shucking” at picking up my ASM 10 upgrade last year from a 5.0 to a 7.5 for $1250 only for another copy to sell this week on Comiclink in the same grade for $850. I would kill myself if I spent $22,000 on a copy of Pikachu’s Adventure on Wii only to see it sell in the same condition for $600. MAY1979, godzilla43, SpineTic and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla43 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 7:03 PM, Buzzetta said: I am “awww shucking” at picking up my ASM 10 upgrade last year from a 5.0 to a 7.5 for $1250 only for another copy to sell this week on Comiclink in the same grade for $850. I would kill myself if I spent $22,000 on a copy of Pikachu’s Adventure on Wii only to see it sell in the same condition for $600. and in normal retro game collecting loosing 400$ value in something would be "catastrophic" so these graded games really are something SpineTic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 2:03 AM, godzilla43 said: and in normal retro game collecting loosing 400$ value in something would be "catastrophic" so these graded games really are something If anything, doesn't such a disparity between the numbers on most of those WATA games lend more support toward some sort of shenanigans occurring when they were reaching those prices to begin with or were those games pumped up from just a few major highly motivated and competitive and possibly legitimate bidders with deep pockets? MAY1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 3:29 AM, Buzzetta said: If anything, doesn't such a disparity between the numbers on most of those WATA games lend more support toward some sort of shenanigans occurring when they were reaching those prices to begin with or were those games pumped up from just a few major highly motivated and competitive and possibly legitimate bidders with deep pockets? The collectors that were around before the WATA and Heritage handshake knew the market Heritage created was nonsense. The prices realized at the auction houses never translated to eBay or conventions. Collectors were never paying those prices. Buzzetta, badback83, MAY1979 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Prices have come back down to pre covid levels for the most part which.. makes sense? There are certainly sales that didn't make sense, like the Mario 64 in games or the Secret Wars 8 page in comics. Well, guess what, the buyer of those two items, to the best of my knowledge, was the same person. The prices being paid in 2021 were real, there's no question of that because the buyers have been identified. Were they great purchases, of course not, but everyone was caught up in it, just like with trading cards. How or why people can think that its specific to games is odd to me. There are examples literally everywhere. Look at the Jordan RC psa 10 market. It hit 700,000 at one point. Last old sold for 186,000. 186k is still good money, but its a 70% decline on what was touted as, and probably is, the most blue chip basketball card there is. Well, I don't know cards all that well, but if the blue chips are down 70% from peak is it any surprise that some of the insane overpays in games are down huge as well? The better items are down substantially, but not down the comical 70, 80, 90% that we see with garbage that was vastly overpaid at the time. I also collect alpha MTG cards, which is the most desirable set. Those are easily down 50-70% from peak as well. Why are we surprised about any of this. Comics and especially comic art have been sheltered a little better because they didn't go up as much in the first place. The fall back down to pre covid levels was a softer landing because they never went up as much in the first place. But even with comics there are substantial reductions on some blue chip items, and the junk $10 books that shot to $100 are back down to $10. This is/was a broad based phenomena across many multiple collecting categories. How are NFT values holding up? They shot from zero to $$$$ and are back to zero. Etc etc etc all over the place. Edited December 29, 2023 by Bronty MAY1979 and szucchini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Linguini Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Remember, most of the companies grading these games would charge people submitting those same game "fair market value" grading fees. Reminds me of the stories I heard a few years ago where people were being told they couldn't grade Walking Dead #1s with CGC through the modern grading tier because the value was too high. Not sure how that ended up working out but I am interested in what is going on with the WATA price manipulation lawsuits. MAY1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Cataldo Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Loose game market is pretty strong right now. I just sold an Atari 2600 Quadrun with a not-NM label for $500. badback83 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badback83 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Now that most of the comic-turned video game-turned back to comic “pump and dumpers” have basically gone silent in the wake of the WATA junk, I’ve been having a ball the past year or so collecting NES and games from when I was young. I’ve been having more fun with that than comics have provided me the past couple years. In my opinion, the retro game market is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...