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Show your KRACKED out & LIBERATED Gold Books (RELEASE THE KRAKEN)
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OPERATION CRACK: SHOW YOUR LIBERATED BOOKS  

22 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you like to crack out books and do weird stuff with them, like smell 'em?

    • YES. I like cracking out books now and again, just for the 'craic'
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    • NO. I never crack and prefer my crack strictly in the pipe.
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I said at the beginning of this thread I would be cracking books and sharing some of the quirks found within. To date there hasn't been much to report in the way of that.

I have to stress I love cracking books for reading material, as long as the price is right and logical for me. The majority of my small collection which are gems and which carry some value stay in the slab, and will remain there.

I will also state FTR, I am not a CGC basher. I recognise the stability and the value they have brought to the hobby, and I think that resto detection is probably their biggest plus albeit there seems to be constant debate and inconsistency as to what actually constitutes a restored book within their criteria. 

I think CGC's greatest gift are these wonderful forums which empower community, knowledge and policing within the hobby.

Having said all that this book is a doozy. The person who graded this book does not know how to grade, period. They either need to be re-assigned or retrained....simple as that.

At best this book would be a 1.5. Personally I would give it a 1.0. Some would call it a 0.5.

I would also add, and you'll have to take my word for it, I know how to crack a book efficiently, speedily and safely i.e. without causing damage or distress to the book.

The cover of this book has wonderful colours, the gubbins or guts of the book is probably in the Fine range...however I do not expect a book assigned a 3.0 grade to have a detached and fully split cover. FULLY SPLIT!!

Not attached to the book in any way. To add insult to injury, the cover of front and back is BRITTLE.

Really astounding mis-grade. IMO Two whole grades out of whack.  :facepalm:  

 

 

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On 3/5/2024 at 9:36 AM, Paul © ® 💙™ said:

I said at the beginning of this thread I would be cracking books and sharing some of the quirks found within. To date there hasn't been much to report in the way of that.

I have to stress I love cracking books for reading material, as long as the price is right and logical for me. The majority of my small collection which are gems and which carry some value stay in the slab, and will remain there.

I will also state FTR, I am not a CGC basher. I recognise the stability and the value they have brought to the hobby, and I think that resto detection is probably their biggest plus albeit there seems to be constant debate and inconsistency as to what actually constitutes a restored book within their criteria. 

I think CGC's greatest gift are these wonderful forums which empower community, knowledge and policing within the hobby.

Having said all that this book is a doozy. The person who graded this book does not know how to grade, period. They either need to be re-assigned or retrained....simple as that.

At best this book would be a 1.5. Personally I would give it a 1.0. Some would call it a 0.5.

I would also add, and you'll have to take my word for it, I know how to crack a book efficiently, speedily and safely i.e. without causing damage or distress to the book.

The cover of this book has wonderful colours, the gubbins or guts of the book is probably in the Fine range...however I do not expect a book assigned a 3.0 grade to have a detached and fully split cover. FULLY SPLIT!!

Not attached to the book in any way. To add insult to injury, the cover of front and back is BRITTLE.

Really astounding mis-grade. IMO Two whole grades out of whack.  :facepalm:  

 

 

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I missed this before. Oh man, that sucks!

I wonder if it's conceivable that the cover was attached when graded, but has a super-weak spine that came apart between the one-two punch of encapsulation and shifting around in transit. I've had a few similar (but smaller & less critical) problems with recent slabs.

 

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On 3/6/2024 at 11:10 PM, Point Five said:

I missed this before. Oh man, that sucks!

I wonder if it's conceivable that the cover was attached when graded, but has a super-weak spine that came apart between the one-two punch of encapsulation and shifting around in transit. I've had a few similar (but smaller & less critical) problems with recent slabs.

 

Sorry Jon, I'm not buying that potential excuse or explanation.

Even if what you say is correct, then...

1. Revise the encapsulation process.

2. How come a totally brittle cover was not factored into the grade?

I honestly believe that any slab should be viewed as a Schroedinger's cat scenario.

Or to paraphrase Forrest Hump...

'A slab is like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna git'.

I don't say this lightly. Years ago when I bought SA I stopped cracking because of the stuff I found within.

I understand humans make mistakes, but this slabbing business has to be laid on trust, and personally I don't have any confidence in any slab I crack.

It's a complete lottery.

To be blunt, the graders...or a proportion of them couldn't grade a Sandwich.

Sad, alarming...but true IMHO.

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On 3/5/2024 at 7:36 AM, Paul © ® 💙™ said:

I think CGC's greatest gift are these wonderful forums which empower community, knowledge and policing within the hobby

^^   :cheers:

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On 3/6/2024 at 5:32 PM, Paul © ® 💙™ said:

Sorry Jon, I'm not buying that potential excuse or explanation.

Even if what you say is correct, then...

1. Revise the encapsulation process.

2. How come a totally brittle cover was not factored into the grade?

I honestly believe that any slab should be viewed as a Schroedinger's cat scenario.

Or to paraphrase Forrest Hump...

'A slab is like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna git'.

I don't say this lightly. Years ago when I bought SA I stopped cracking because of the stuff I found within.

I understand humans make mistakes, but this slabbing business has to be laid on trust, and personally I don't have any confidence in any slab I crack.

It's a complete lottery.

To be blunt, the graders...or a proportion of them couldn't grade a Sandwich.

Sad, alarming...but true IMHO.

Did the graders notes give any indication of a partial spine split?

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