Vince G Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Just curious what you guys think. I already have the grade but want to get some thoughts before revealing. All visible defects presented in pics. jcjames 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q.N.S. Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 7.5/8.0. Maybe a little better if it was pressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 This is not the type of blemish I'd want to see in an 8.0. Put me in the CGC 7.0 camp (even if the book has been pressed). KCOComics and Vince G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 For context, book has been pressed, but the color rub/loss is the result of the press. Before pressing, book had a stacking crease and a number of heavier creases along the spine, and no color lift of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 On 6/2/2024 at 5:30 PM, zzutak said: This is not the type of blemish I'd want to see in an 8.0. Put me in the CGC 7.0 camp (even if the book has been pressed). Exactly. This was exactly how I thought about this defect. My estimate was 6.5, outside 7.0 at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilo2 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 7.5 / 8.0 for me. Nice book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 6.5/7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7.0. For me, but trying to read into your comments, I bet it got bumped up. 8.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 I think we have a decent sample of grades. Reveal coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 (edited) They’re giving away high grades like candy these days. With the defects, this shouldn't grade any higher than a 7.0 in my opinion. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4435428001/ Edited June 3 by Vince G Artboy99, jcjames and grendelbo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBTOTHEC Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 On 6/2/2024 at 9:26 PM, Vince G said: They’re giving away high grades like candy these days. With the defects, this shouldn't grade any higher than a 7.0 in my opinion. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4435428001/ I agree with you. I thought was a 7.5 AT BEST and probably a 7.0 But Congrats!! I have an 8.5 as well that I think looks nicer. B2D327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 On 6/2/2024 at 10:09 PM, ROBTOTHEC said: I agree with you. I thought was a 7.5 AT BEST and probably a 7.0 But Congrats!! I have an 8.5 as well that I think looks nicer. I have an 8.5 that was graded in 2018. I imagine if I resubbed that one, it would come back 9.2 using today’s lax grading standards. I can’t see how this isn’t going to be a problem for the hobby. The real test will come when collectors try to move books like this that are clearly overgraded. I certainly wouldn’t buy this copy for 8.5 money. grendelbo and KCOComics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBTOTHEC Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 On 6/2/2024 at 10:30 PM, Vince G said: I have an 8.5 that was graded in 2018. I imagine if I resubbed that one, it would come back 9.2 using today’s lax grading standards. I can’t see how this isn’t going to be a problem for the hobby. The real test will come when collectors try to move books like this that are clearly overgraded. I certainly wouldn’t buy this copy for 8.5 money. IT IS a problem!! There is no consistency. I sent one in about 15 years ago that I was hoping might get a 5.5 but I thought it was really a 4.5/5.0. It came back at 7.5! With like 25 color breaking spine stress lines. I sold it immediately but back then I think I got about $600-700 for it. You have me wondering how re-submitting mine (8.5) might do? Vince G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 They go through periods of stricter and less strict grading. Got the last 5+ years, it's felt strict.... maybe that's changing? I have a beautiful 7.0 I should consider resubbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 (edited) On 6/3/2024 at 8:42 AM, KCOComics said: They go through periods of stricter and less strict grading. Got the last 5+ years, it's felt strict.... maybe that's changing? I have a beautiful 7.0 I should consider resubbing. They do but this is probably the most lenient phase I’ve seen since I got back into the hobby in 2011 and started sending books in. Might as well send yours in. As more and more of these books come back much higher than expected, the resubs are going to be off the charts. There are plenty of collectors who buy the book, not the grade, but I’m sure the same can be said for those who buy the grade. Who knows, if I put this book up at auction it may fetch 8.5 money. Edited June 3 by Vince G KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 There has never been a better time to slab your books than right now................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 On 6/5/2024 at 10:14 AM, Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice said: There has never been a better time to slab your books than right now................ And I'm sure CGC is banking on that fact. Not sure about you, but I'm paying very close attention to the label if I'm buying a book these days. The notes won't tell the full story. Any serial number starting with 42, 43, or 44 may be indicative of a book that's clearly overgraded. Buyer beware. jcjames 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 6/5/2024 at 3:19 PM, Vince G said: And I'm sure CGC is banking on that fact. Not sure about you, but I'm paying very close attention to the label if I'm buying a book these days. The notes won't tell the full story. Any serial number starting with 42, 43, or 44 may be indicative of a book that's clearly overgraded. Buyer beware. This, I am in the 9.6 wheelhouse, but it has to look like a 9.6 before I'm willing to shell out for it. How did the blemish/rub down the right hand of the book occur during pressing? I ask because I press my own books and don't want this happening if I can help it. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 On 6/5/2024 at 12:58 PM, batmiesta said: This, I am in the 9.6 wheelhouse, but it has to look like a 9.6 before I'm willing to shell out for it. How did the blemish/rub down the right hand of the book occur during pressing? I ask because I press my own books and don't want this happening if I can help it. Welp, I'm no expert here on how exactly this happened, but my presser changed a bunch of parts in the machine and ran three batches through. Unfortunately, this book, my Hulk 180, and my Tomb of Dracula 1 were in one of those batches. batmiesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
