Mokiguy Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Looking at CGC's grading information area under Restoration/Conservation I read this ...... So what exactly is a bindery chip and how large is the size of two bindery chips? Thanks ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) From Heritage Auctions - Bindery chips, a common defect in Golden Age comics, are considered printing defects, and are relatively acceptable in the market. Restoration on such a defect by itself would usually be considered excessive. Marvel Chipping - The most famous is probably "Marvel Chipping" which is a bindery (trimming/ cutting) defect that results in a series of chips and tears at the top, bottom, and right edges of the cover, caused when the cutting blade of an industrial paper trimmer becomes dull. Example Of Marvel Chipping Edited June 14 by marvelmaniac thehumantorch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokiguy Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 On 6/14/2024 at 10:11 AM, marvelmaniac said: From Heritage Auctions - Bindery chips, a common defect in Golden Age comics, are considered printing defects, and are relatively acceptable in the market. Restoration on such a defect by itself would usually be considered excessive. Marvel Chipping - The most famous is probably "Marvel Chipping" which is a bindery (trimming/ cutting) defect that results in a series of chips and tears at the top, bottom, and right edges of the cover, caused when the cutting blade of an industrial paper trimmer becomes dull. Example Of Marvel Chipping Thank you ........ that's an excellent answer, but because CGC isn't very clear on what a bindery chips size is in their opinion, I'm still in the dark as to what CGC means by no more than two bindery chips. Looking at your example, there are three bindery chips in a row. The first looks to be less than 1 mm by 1/2 mm, the second about 1 mm by 10 mm, and the third about 1 mm by 20 mm. Now if CGC would clarify what they think the size of a bindery chip is, I'd have my answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 On 6/14/2024 at 6:02 PM, Mokiguy said: Thank you ........ that's an excellent answer, but because CGC isn't very clear on what a bindery chips size is in their opinion, I'm still in the dark as to what CGC means by no more than two bindery chips. Looking at your example, there are three bindery chips in a row. The first looks to be less than 1 mm by 1/2 mm, the second about 1 mm by 10 mm, and the third about 1 mm by 20 mm. Now if CGC would clarify what they think the size of a bindery chip is, I'd have my answer! Do they list any of this in their own grading guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokiguy Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 On 6/15/2024 at 4:18 PM, marvelmaniac said: Do they list any of this in their own grading guide? I suppose I will have to buy their grading guide to see, unless somebody that already has their guide will chime in. But all they have here at the CGC site is exactly what I copied and pasted and that doesn't clarify the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 6/16/2024 at 9:12 AM, Mokiguy said: I suppose I will have to buy their grading guide to see, unless somebody that already has their guide will chime in. But all they have here at the CGC site is exactly what I copied and pasted and that doesn't clarify the issue. Unfortunately, there are a lot of gray areas when it comes to grading based on the words used in the grading standards such as...accumulation, imperceptible, minute, subtle, slight, minor, moderate, significant, severe and then they use adverbs/adjectives along with those words like, barely, some, very, almost, tiny, small, none of these words have a true black and white definitive meaning as far as amount or size. All of this leads to individual perception of a book when grading and inconsistencies in grading. CGC is not going to give away all of their trade secrets, they probably go by the saying... "I taught you everything you know, not everything I know." Hopefully someone with the CGC Grading Guide or who has actual experience with this will chime in. Artifiction and RockMyAmadeus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 6/16/2024 at 8:12 AM, Mokiguy said: I suppose I will have to buy their grading guide to see... It is an EXCELLENT investment. Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) Lord have mercy. Bindery chips are not defined or limited by size but by location. Bindery chips are the tiny chips missing from either the very top or the very bottom of the spine (or both). They often occur as a result of handling/mishandling books (usually 52-page and thicker Golden Age books) that are manufactured with a bindery tear. Handling/mishandling causes the tear to daylight at the top/bottom edge and voila, the tiny/small tear morphs into a tiny/small chip. Marvel chips are NOT bindery chips. Totally different mechanisms, locations, and eras. Here are two examples. The More Fun has the chip at the top, while the Captain America has the chip at the bottom. Note to CGC: it's "bindery" not "bindary" (d-oh!). Edited June 16 by zzutak RockMyAmadeus, Dick Pontoon, grendelbo and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 6/16/2024 at 11:02 AM, zzutak said: Lord have mercy. Bindery chips are not defined or limited by size but by location. Bindery chips are the tiny chips missing from either the very top or the very bottom of the spine (or both). They often occur as a result of handling/mishandling books (usually 52-page and thicker Golden Age books) that are manufactured with a bindery tear. Handling/mishandling causes the tear to daylight at the top/bottom edge and voila, the tiny/small tear morphs into a tiny/small chip. Marvel chips are NOT bindery chips. Totally different mechanisms, locations, and eras. Here are two examples. The More Fun has the chip at the top, while the Captain America has the chip at the bottom. Note to CGC: it's "bindery" not "bindary" (d-oh!). Agreed, the bindery is the spine where the book is bound together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
