Superman 1-100 pedigrees

[tb]

Much fewer Supermans on the market compared to the other major titles.

 

B: Bethlehem

BA: Big Apple

CR: Crowley

C: Church

D: "D" copy

L: Larson

NS: Nova Scotia

O: Ohio

R: Rockford

(): Different grades reported for same issue

*: Sold as part of a lot, grade is average

 

1 C60?(SP/MP?)

2

3 L75 NS80

4

5

6

7

8

9

10 L94(Q)

11 D90

12 D90

13

14

15

16

17 BA85

18 O85 R65

19 R90 CR70

20 O92

21

22 CR80

23

24

25 O94

26

27

28

29 CR90

30

31 O90

32 CR70

33

34

35 BA83*

...

40 BA40*

...

48 CR40

...

51 CR80

...

71 BA50(83*)

72 B90 CR75

73

74 CR60

 

[CosmicBob]

I have Superman #18 Rockford, which is CGC 6.5.

[clarkkentdds]

HKP- Where are you getting this information? Overstreet???

[tb]

By going through virtually every comic book auction catalog ever published

and looking at each individual lot; also included references from major dealers

(when credible) and CGC graded books listed on eBay. Overstreet's annual

reports is another potential source that I have not considered yet. It would be

quite interesting since it covers many key books that sold in private transactions.

 

 

 

[PovertyRow]

By going through virtually every comic book auction catalog ever published

and looking at each individual lot; also included references from major dealers

(when credible) and CGC graded books listed on eBay. Overstreet's annual

reports is another potential source that I have not considered yet. It would be

quite interesting since it covers many key books that sold in private transactions.

 

 

 

HKP - you should compile this into at LEAST an article if not a book!

[tb]

Thanks a lot, Bob, I added this to the list. Would have *ed you if I hadn't

given you 5 already.

[clarkkentdds]

HKP- I have to check my collection tonight...I think I can certainly add to your list.

[tb]

Clarkkentdds:

 

Thanks - that would be fantastic. I haven't seen many of these.

 

POV:

I've been posting the lists this way hoping to simulate interest that might

motivate CGC and other collectors to make their data available. Even if

that doesn't happen, I think the first meaningful comparisons should be

possible when I've added a few more titles. Arty already did some really

interesting stuff, but I'd like a database where we can ask any kind of

queries for specific titles, years, grades, you name it. Especially, I want

to cover the key titles. The key is to get enough data. If CGC

were to release their pedigree stats, the information floodgates would be

wide open & people could write lots of very interesting articles.

 

 

 

 

[CosmicBob]

POV:

I've been posting the lists this way hoping to simulate interest that might

motivate CGC and other collectors to make their data available. Even if

that doesn't happen, I think the first meaningful comparisons should be

possible when I've added a few more titles. Arty already did some really

interesting stuff, but I'd like a database where we can ask any kind of

queries for specific titles, years, grades, you name it. Especially, I want

to cover the key titles. The key is to get enough data. If CGC

were to release their pedigree stats, the information floodgates would be

wide open & people could write lots of very interesting articles.

 

Does CGC keep stats on the Pedigrees? Is it in the database as a field they can query on or is it just a free form text field? Maybe Steve or Arch will elighten us!

[CosmicBob]

I have Superman #18 Rockford, which is CGC 6.5.

 

I just bought a Superman #42 CGC 8.5 C-OW which is Rockford.

[Kevin76]

I have Superman #18 Rockford, which is CGC 6.5.

 

I just bought a Superman #42 CGC 8.5 C-OW which is Rockford.

 

I just bought a Superman # 3 CGC 9.8 White which is Mile High

[Aman619]

SO based on your research so far. is Superman #1 a difficult book in high grade and common in lower grades? or hard to find overall?? I dont think many Pedigree collections HAD a Supe #1 just Nova Scotia and Mile High.

[tb]

Good question - I don't understand why high grade copies of Superman

#1 never are offered - it should be a fairly common GA book. On the other

hand, there are 1950s titles with much bigger print runs that never surface

in high grade either.

 

The best explanation I can come up with is that the market's extreme

reliance on Overstreet up to eBay and CGC created an unbalanced

Soviet-style market where titles that were listed too low never would

surface. We probably all have books that are worth more to us than

fair market value. I certainly do, and I keep them because they

are worth more to me than the money I could raise by selling. Last

week, I showed a couple of early high grade WDCS that I bought

recently. Books like these were _impossible_ (ie. comb-the-market-

for-20-years-and-never-see-a-single-copy-kind-of-impossible) to dig up

until very recently when some owners realized that the market would

absorb them at 3-4 times guide.

 

I suspect that there are a handful of VF/NM Superman #1s around

but that the owners have no interest in selling books that are worth

more to them than anything else $3-400,000 could buy. I would not be

surprised if some lurker out there is reading this smirking over a martini

while glancing at his/her 9.6 copy and and nodding quietly...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Aman619]

Ive actually had dealers tell me that there are actualy very few copies above what is now called '7.0.' Id be curious from any dealers reading this how many copies thay have had and know about. Theres the MH which has work. What other copies. Maybe you are right that there are a few non-pedigrees sitting in collection.....