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Screen your cards better. They are providing a service that is meant to be impartial. Their job is not to help you out by tossing you more 10s.

The set that the 2003 card came in was called 'Traded and Rookies', and it's true that he didn't make his MLB debut until 2003. His 2000 Topps and 2000 Topps Chrome are considered his true rookies though. His situation is a little odd because it wasn't typical in those days for them to introduce a player into the base sets or even Traded sets until they had already made their MLB debut. I'm not sure what the reasoning for that was. It's also not uncommon for people to designate non-true rookies as the sort of agreed upon rookie, so the 2003 still has plenty of value since it's tied to his actual MLB debut.

I wasn't. I was curious, so I took the scan from the certification page and put it into photoshop and measured the distance from edge to border in pixels. It's 23 pixels to 24 pixels, measured at 500% (to make sure I was accurate in the ruler placement). It may be for the preview video however that it's a 3D animation using the card image, so not necessarily a real representation of the actual card.

Looks good to me. I sort of expected the black and gold theme, but I'm into it. Hoping for a potential upgrade on the CGC card someday, but I also understand the reason for keeping it as-is.

Zoomed to 500% magnification in Photoshop the borders are within 1 pixel distance of each other all around. I think that probably qualifies.

For Domiguez and Gronk: Do you want these for your personal collection or are you looking to resell? If they're for PC, do whatever you prefer. If you like the subgrades, consider keeping them. If it's for resale, people just don't care about subgrades and a 10 is to your benefit. There's no reason to keep the 9.5s. For Hosmer: A reholder service is not a re-grade review. If you send that card, you will receive a black slab 9 back. If you want the card given a possibly higher grade you will need to crack it from the slab and resubmit as a normal grading order.

They credit to your account by default, but if you send them a support case or call their support line they can issue it as a refund to the original card. I did this recently with a credit.

This is incorrect. You don't need memberships with each, one membership allows you to submit to any of their subsidiaries. Josh Cade does good work though for anyone browsing who doesn't feel like a membership is the best option for them.

It 100% looks torn. There is are protruding perforations and fabric threads on each side.

In case anyone may be interested. I have a Perfect 10 Celebrations Charizard (U.S. Version) listed on eBay. 7 total perfects with CGC have been graded, zero with BGS. (total pop between the two companies is I think around 2k). This was difficult to comp as I don't believe one has ever sold or been listed (on eBay at least), so I priced it in line with recent sales on BGS Pristine listings. I've also left offers open on it, so feel free to throw a number out if interested. Thanks for looking. https://www.ebay.com/itm/374012222893

If you didn't submit directly, you are not their customer in this support situation. You are going to have to try to get the person who submitted for you to obtain this info and provide it to them to get a status update on the order.

Most graders do not write either serial or RC on any of their slab details. PSA/BGS/HGA don't do serial printing aside from very rare cases. SGC is the only one who does it consistently For rookie designation specifically, the grader is not determining and making an evaluation if it is a true RC or deserves the label, that is outside of the scope of their work (and cards did not put RC labels on them for 100 years before the early/mid 2000s)

Hi,welcome and that's an awesome card (one of my personal favorites in my collection, have had it for decades as well). First, let me just temper expectations and note that screw down holders are notorious these days for having damaged vintage cards. It's an unfortunate thing in hindsight that they're not really the best option for protecting cards (they can be tightened and remove ink or crush parts of the card). That being said, you can choose any tier you'd like based on the price and turnaround time you'd like for the process. That card in mint condition can range from 500-4000, but unless you scrutinize it under magnification and feel confident it will absolutely get a 10, you're within reason to use a $500 valuation on the declaration (and probably even safe to use bulk pricing for up to $250) If it does happen to 10, and they feel that should have been apparent, they may up charge you $10-30 for a step up in tier, but that's common and not something you need to worry about when submitting.

This is correct. Only the pristine cards will be modified to Gem Mint 10 under the black label. They have not previewed the Perfect 10 label yet, I believe they stated in a message above it is still being worked on and will be revealed soon.

I think the changes they made are to set the tone and style of the slab going forward. Moving away from White/Green and to the black/gold is a pretty big adjustment. Once they have that brand and style down and it's generally accepted and recognized by everyone there will always be room in the future to make subtle changes to things like format/layout and font. That has happened at every other grading company over time. As for the round slabs, I like them and they're my personal favorite among the companies.

You're right on the 55:45. That's the requirement for a 10 on the front (back is 75/25)

Those grades look pretty accurate from what your pictures show. The low corners/surface/edge are apparent. You might not agree with them, but they appear to be correct.

Wanted to ask my question again in case it got lost in the shuffle above: I have a question about the removal of subgrades from the label (something I agree with generally, though I would have placed them on the back). Will those subgrades used to determine overall card grade still be available on the certification and pop report, even if not added to the slab itself? I know part of the effort of what slows things down is the data entry of each into the report (a small amount of time per card, but multiplied by soon to be millions in total), but I think having the subs on the cert itself is a great benefit in this industry.

Yes. Submit them using the form for a reholder service, for $5 per card.

- You'd need 50 raw cards to qualify for bulk. Reholder is a service separate from grading. - Yes, they'll be 10s in the new holder - The new pop report is likely to be updated to combine the pristine/gem mint into one category. This is an unfortunate side effect of the grading change. Perfect 10s will still be unique on the pop report. If your 10s don't have subgrades, you may consider sending for a chance at a perfect 10 (if we can confirm subgrades are on file and there's a process for that).

This sucks but they’re new to the sports card segment and every grading company has gone through changes similar to this. There’s no way to do this and evolve with the market without upsetting a segment of customers (and that’s true for most businesses). I’d suggest calling their customer service and asking about a bulk reholder agreement on price. I have no inside info to think this is possible but there are likely a handful of customers affected by this more than anyone else and perhaps they’ll work to make things right with them.

I believe they have the subgrades on file, whether you included them on slab or not. So if they are 10/10/10/10 on file, it should be re-holdered with a Perfect designation.

I have a question about the removal of subgrades from the label (something I agree with generally, though I would have placed them on the back). Will those subgrades used to determine overall card grade still be available on the certification and pop report, even if not added to the slab itself? I know part of the effort of what slows things down is the data entry of each into the report (a small amount of time per card, but multiplied by soon to be millions in total), but I think having the subs on the cert itself is a great benefit in this industry.

Using the auction sell method on a brand that has only been around for a year and doesn't have name recognition is a seller problem (especially people who list with .99 starting price) . List the card for what it's worth using BIN, and be patient. Auctions by nature are meant for products that have an initial high demand. People can't have a demand for things they don't know exist.

It could be argued that of the 4 major players right now (BGS, PSA, CSG, SGC) that BGS is falling behind the others slowly as time goes on. They are grading less cards per month/day, they just finally re-opened an affordable tier a couple of weeks ago. They have a pretty severe backlog still with an ETA of a few months from now. And they haven't had an acquisition or influx of investment like PSA/CSG has. SGC has even overtaken them in many people's opinion as it relates to public perception, resale value, and vintage grading. Whether we like it or not, I think the hobby and public have spoken that the BGS method is less preferable than the others. CSG here has at least found a bit of a of a balance. Give a 10 Gem Mint that compares with every other company's 10, and also retain the 'Perfect 10' to give a chase grade that is rarely seen.