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I imagine the owner of the CGC 9.0 copy of this Action ashcan must also be quite ecstatic with this sale since it sounds as though they picked it up for $50K after it has first sold for only $17,825 in a Heritage Auction back in 2002: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/action-comics-1-ashcan-dc-1938-this-gruesome-craig-flessel-cover-graces-the-comic-that-was-used-to-register-the-trade/a/805-5938.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|1

All I can say is that I wished I had been the winner of the Billy Wright copy of this book back in 2012 for $49,293.75 or for just slightly over condition guide at the time, and then be able to flip it back out for $200K in less than a week: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/all-star-comics-3-billy-wright-pedigree-dc-1940-cgc-vf-85-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7054-91043.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|2

No way does the introduction of a single copy of a book (even if a few thousand in total) devalue the market as a whole. In fact, it might have the opposite affect, raising awareness and prices as to compete with the increases in Silver and Bronze seen lately. I would indeed tend to agree with your point here as you certainly need to have at least some sales in high grade in order to spike more interest into the GA marketplace. Definitely hard to have prices moving upwards when copies of some GA books, let along high grade copies, only come into the marketplace once every few years, if you are lucky.

Well, this Indian Reservation Collection was alluded to in Gerber's Photo Journal and also according to the following post from Sean, it would appear that the story about this pedigree worthy collection is indeed true: Since it's apparently true and you remember the story well, how about YOU sharing the story here with all of us here, instead of waiting for Gary (who never posts here) to share his story which would appear very unlikely after all this time.

Yes, it's my understanding that the highest graded books are from this period. So, are you saying that there are possibly some books from earlier than 1943 in non-highest grade condition, and if so, by any chance would any them go back into the later 1930's time period?

Well, from your latest little snippet here, I guess this puts Peter's dream of for the MF 73's out, but keeps your dream of "Hello Pal" in play. My own preference would be for 5,000 copies of either Suspense 3 or Phantom Lady 17 so that we can all have our own personal copy then. Although I am sure your preference would be for Mystery Men 3 since you love the sheer beauty of this cover and I am sure you would like nothing more than to share this same joy and excitement of having one in this grade with all of your fellow board members and collectors.

Another example would be this final last issue in the Jungle run and the 2nd highest graded copy out of a total of only 8 slabbed copies: https://www.comicconnect.com/item/901411 Although at a substantially higher price point, but seemingly still at a relative reasonable price point of only $268 plus the 15% BP.

Yes, always thought the final few issues for the FH titles were a bit tougher to find and yet the prices for the Jungle's were a bit of a steal. Perfect example, being this bright and action packed gorgeous looking copy here, with a total of only 4 Universal copies slabbed to date so far: https://www.comicconnect.com/item/901414 Definitely hard to resist a late issue Jungle at what seems to be a relative bargain basement price of only $105 plus the 15% BP.

I believe this is most likely above his pay grade, and even if not, best not to leak the goods and spoil the big reveal for all parties involved if he still wants to be employed there.

As always, agree with you 110% and love your detailed analysis and your ability to always summarize your thoughts in the fewest words possible.

No, like all of the other major auction houses such as HA and CL, they do not go with auction estimates. Any auction values that are listed for all of these auction websites comes directly from the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide due to their accuracy, relevancy, and general overall acceptance in the comic book marketplace.

Oh wow.........................does this mean that the Western genre in comic books might finally be coming back into vogue after a multi-long decades banishment to the bottom of the comic book valuation dumpster? Or is it beause of that Baker drawn Western femme fatale shooting at the bad boys that's drawing in all of the big dollars?

So, did the dealer NOT hold it for the 15 minutes that you had asked him to? Or was it because your wife had gone on for so long cc about you throwing all of your wad all on one shot, that it was well pass 15 minutes by the time you got off the phone with her?

Not sure if it's a strong result in this crazed and crypto like FOMO marketplace of ours, or is that just limited to the more recent ages and not to GA? Not sure if it's a strong result or not due to lack of sales for books like this in this type of grade, but definitely a record setting one by a long shot.

That the part of the write-up about the Northern Cal Collection which I found a bit confusing. From reading it, it sounded as though he was supposed to buy the Church copy of All-Star 3 from Bob, but only if he could find a suitable replacement copy. I assume this meant the replacement copy was supposed to be for Bob, but then it was so nice that he decided to keep it for himself. So, does that mean that he passed on Bob's Church copy in the end or did he end up with both copies and Bob ended up with neither in the end.

Clicked onto this link and it took me back to the earlier version of the Comic Book Pedigrees website where it had profiled "The 45 Greatest Golden Age Collections Ever Discovered". Looks like the more updated version where it profiles the 60 CGC Pedigrees when it added in the Chinatown as its official 60th pedigree saw some significant changes from the original Top 45 list in terms of additions and some deletions when you do a comparison of the two lists: http://comicpedigrees.com/ From a quick perusal of the 2 lists, it looks like the Norther Cal Collection was dropped from the list of pedigrees with the latest update along with 8 others, namely Cape Cod, Henschel, Napa Valley, Selkirk, Sherwood, Toldedo, Van Buren, and Williamsport. Interesting to note that the Chinatown pedigree had been included in both the original Top 45 list and the updated 60 CGC Pedigrees list.

That's definitely a very interesting and timely story considering that CC just finished auctioning off the only CGC 9.4 graded copy of All-Star 3: https://www.comicconnect.com/item/900255 So, if this is correct, then I guess this must have been the Dave's former Northern Cal copy of All-Star 3 that was auctioned off on CC for $312K plus 15% BP (or for $358,800) during last Thursday's Kentucky Collection portion of the auction. If so, I imagine Dave must have turfed both of the top graded copies of his All-Star 3 out from his personal collection long ago since this CGC 9.4 copy was slabbed back in August of 2001, while the CCC 9.6 graded copy of All-Star 3 was sold through HA back in October of 2002.

Yeah Oh, come on now......................wasn't that triple set listed only for $350K or something like that? Depending upon where you live, I would imagine, but that's nowhere even close to a down payment for a house, let alone the price of a house.

Dave Anderson has one he picked up in California. What was the name of this particular pedigree and I assume you are not referring to the Indian Reservation by Gary Carter that is apparently nothing except an urban legend in the comic book collecting world.

Well, let's hope this first batch here isn't made up entirely of just books from the Famous Funnies and Four Color run then.

not for me either,:Pedigree" has become diluted similar to "unrestored" over the years. Not sure what you mean by "diluted" here, since the hypothetical states that the dealer kept the books segregated from all of his other books? I can certainly understand the agrument about finding them in a garbage can, and hence not being able to trace them back to the OO per se.

Well, if you look back at some of the new so-called "pedigrees" they announced at the same time in order to help hype and launch their new pedigree label back in the summer of 2019, it would appear that you are missing one of CGC's key criteria for a collection to be qualified as an official pedigree.

Yes, you just need to refer to that rather infamous Pedigree Book for pedigree comic books that was scheduled to be release in 1995, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2020, and has now been rescheduled for 2025, 2030, 2035............................ All I can say is that I am sure glad I never put in an advanced $50 deposit for a copy of this book here as requested.

And yet if you take a look at the ready availability of HG high dollar value books like TMNT 1, Hulk 181, GSXM 1, Spidey 129, etc, it's actually the large supply of them in grade by the hundreds or even thousands that allows it to continually drive their prices up in the marketplace.

Yes, although grading and all of the additional ancillary costs that goes along with it is indeed the cost of doing business, it's most definitely a huge upfront cost for anybody to absorb on their own. Especially if you are talking about 5,000 HG GA books, which more than likely also means a good portion of them would be past the maximum threshold value level for even the Standard tier. I guess that's the main reason why most of these OO collections don't end up getting graded and pedigreed until it is actually time for them to be brought to market where the lucky consigning auction house will be more than happy to front the slabbing fees for you just in order to acquire your collection. With the exception of the aforementioned and recently anointed Chinatown Pedigree, I am not aware of any other pedigree where the owner/dealer got them all slabbed and subsequently pedigreed and have yet to bring them to market, even after all these long long years. Definitely a huge cost to absorb on your own without having to sell off at least a samll portion of the collection to offset the grading costs and whatever else comes along with it. A true rarity in this pedigree marketplace, although some of the old timers here might know of other collections which have been slabbed and pedigreed, and yet not brought to market until many years later.