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There's a guy named Jon Berk who could list several million reasons why this is not correct. Character importance is one factor, but unlike the Silver Age comics, Golden Age comics and collectors have many different foci which can increase the price. Rarity, artist (or cover artist), historical significance of book, Hitler covers, war covers, fish to the face covers, good girl art, pre-code horror, and countless others. Collecting Golden Age comics is much different than collecting Silver or Bronze Age comics. Golden Age comic collectors are kind of what all comic collectors were years ago where each had his focus and didn't chase the current trends. +1 Bang on as GA is much more dependent upon the above listed factors and definitely much more so than movie related hype or whether a character is still recognized by today's generation. If it was character recognition, then why are most of the DC related character GA books so much more on the "cold" side as opposed to the genres and themes listed above?

Who sold the 1st 5.0 book? Bob Storms did. Bob seems to get max sales and the most from a book. What did each 5.0 look like? We may not be apples to apples in this comparison. Are you referring to the first CGC 5.0 graded copy selling for > $50K? I thought Bob had sold Glassman's 5.0 graded copy sometime around the summer of 2017. I believe the AF 15 sale that really jump started the market a couple years ago was the 5 AF 15 sales that CC had in their March 2017 auction which also included this CGC 5.0 copy that fetched $57K. For some reason, this copy here seems to get the most airplay out of the 5 AF 15's that had sold in that particular auction: I am sure this CC auction result made it a whole lot easier for Bob to sell Glassman's 5.0 graded copy for somewhere in the low $50K's a few short months later.

Four simple words: Too far, too fast!!!

It was March 2018 per GPA and I think it sold on CC... Looks like you got it pegged exactly right: https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=761318

Can't keep track of all of these auction sales after awhile. Which auction site was it that managed to sell a CGC 1.0 copy for $21K?

What was the full BIN price since I cannot find the listing on their website?

Any highlights that you've noticed so far, since I am usually too lazy to go through the CL auctions?

Well, I believe they generally stop when there's around 2,000 books or thereabouts. Of course, since there's something like 600 X-Men books with almost all of them from sometjong called the Key Comics Collection loaded in there already, I believe this is going to skewed the final count up to something like 2,500 books by the time it's all said and done. I imagine similar to how the Jon Berk Auction had something like 3,000 books in there.

Now, that's what I would call a perfect matching set of bookends that would look super nice in my bookcase.

Wow, it must be my reading comprehension or I need to go back and re-read your posts more carefully as I got the distinct impression from your posts that standalone pressing was a commonplace practice back in the days before CGC was ever opened for buisness.

That's because the PL 17 CGC 9.4 copy is listed for the August Heritage Auction. umm ... no https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=839537 Definitely a case of me getting too slow to keep up with all of these books as they are being loaded up here. I thought for sure I did not see this one here when I checked yesterday. Looks like CC is going to have a few big books here in this upcoming Event Auction of theirs.

I think I might like the 8.0 better than the 8.5 +1 Now, that is definitely a pretty sharp looking copy for only being graded as CGC 8.0 copy. Especially since it also has far fewer spine ticks than you tend to see on most other HG copies, which is just so prevalent on this book due to the absolutely poor production.

Well, it definitely looks like at least a couple of big time collectors must be cashing out here. Just noticed some other runs here including the HG Brave and Bold run and then there's the Church run of Captain Marvel Jr.

It also looks ike somebody is letting their uber HG early SA Batman run go at the same time. Almost 4 pages there with a near complete run of Batman 140 through 240 with just the odd issues missing here and there.

That's because the PL 17 CGC 9.4 copy is listed for the August Heritage Auction.

Methinks this little book here is going to outdo the CGC 9.4 graded copy of PL 17 that is going to be one of the highlights in the upcoming Heritage Auction.

I wonder if this had more to do with the venue. Although the net might have ended the same (or less) on HA. I really don't think the venue had that much to do with it since I have also seen books resell for higher on CC not too long after being sold on Heritage. Especially once you factor in the higher auction fees on the Heritage website, it's pretty hard to say which venue will give you the best bottom line. As with all of these things, I imagine it also has a lot to do with timing and luck in terms of the right eyeballs looking at it, as opposed to being away on holidays or something like that. I will say though that if you are able to get Heritage to slot your book into the Platinum portion of their auction, you are most likely to get much more dollars than you could from any other auction site. Only problem is that with the books which most of us have here, it would most likely be relegated to the regular portion of the auction, or possibly even to the lower profile Saturday portion of the auction. So, I don't know if it's a sure thing that you will get more from Heritage as opposed to CC or CL. Like I had said in my earlier post, I feel that it's really more a case of buying into a hot marketplace and then trying to resell back into it after a relatively short time period of only 2 years.

Clark; Sorry to hear that you didn't get the results that you were hoping for. Glad to see that you was able to recover your full cost for the books plus the CC auction fees with a little bit left for a nice dinner at the end though. With the way auction results are going nowadays, i would say that you have to be extremely lucky if you are hoping to make money when you go into the hottest part of the market and you have to pay pretty much top dollar to acquire your books. Especially when you are talking about only a 2-year time frame which is actually pretty short in the comic book collectibes marketplace. You actually did a lot better than other investors like Jay Parrino and that big real estate guy (for the life of me, I can't remember his name ) who both lost an absolute ton of money when they tried to resell their books back into the marketplace after purchasing them and holding them for only a few years. From that point of view, I would not say that the market is cold since you was still able to recoup all of your money plus a little bit more after only a short 2-year time period. Really really happy to hear that you was able to get yourself into a Cap 1 (plus apparently 6 other books) out of all this which means that you are going to do just fine in the end. You are definitely right when it comes to playing the long game in terms of vintage comic book collectibles. Like I have said before with respect to vintage comic books, it's not so much about trying to time the market, as opposed to spending time in the market.

Mitch; Good to hear the opinions from the real collectors who were actually there back in the day and already active in the hobby. I would agree with you that his Top 25 which then became his Top 50 and then finally into his current Top 100 was a definite asset which certainly help to highlight and place a focus on the top books in the hobby. His eventual introduction of the market reports was also a pretty big thing and a must read in those days prior to the internet and magazines such as CBM. Definitely not so much the case now where we have information about sales and other marketplace activity pretty much right at the click of a button. What was the epic major shift that your are referring to from the first Overstreet guide to the second Overstreet guide? Was it from a pricing point of view with repsect to some of the books or simply the mere fact that there was a follow-up second edition which gave an indication to the marketplace that there would now be an ongoing price guide going forward?

Well, except for the really early DC superhero books, I believe this would encompass pretty much 99.9% of the rest of the DC covers then.

Huh? Archies are Archies, Pep 22 is MLJ. My bad as the first thing that comes to my mind when somebody mentions Archie is Pep 22, Archie 1, and Jackpot 4. Well, in terms of MLJ I would definitely say that the Jackpot's and Zip's are indeed hot.

+1 This definitely seems to be true as the market clearly cycles itself through from one sector to the next, before eventually completing the circle and then starts the same rinse and repeat cycle all over again.

Well, probably not in the case of Pep 22 as we are still waiting for a few of these to hopefully hit the marketplace one of these days. As for the early Centuars, if it's the right copy at a "reasonable" price, you can bet that I'll most definitely be more than interested in that.

Well, probably not worth all the trouble to go all the way out to my sister's house to look for it. Especially when it's buried with all of the other so-called hot back issues at the time, but otherwise what we now find to be common books such as the Adams/Smith Avengers run, Smith's Conan run, Adams intermitten Batman books, Byrne/Claremont X-Men run of books, etc. In other words, definitely nothing to write home about since these are the types of books that tends to show up pretty much everywhere nowadays and relatively easy to buy if you really want to obtain a copy.

Well, like I had alluded to earlier, it could also be nothing more than sour grapes and rumours made up by other owners of uber HG copies? Which reminds me that I should really eventually get around to hunting down my copy of the book. Hopefully, it's sitting right down at the bottom of some big pile of books getting the living daylights squashed right out of it to save me some unnecessary costs further down the line. Squish, squash...............down you go into a nice little pancake. Seriously though, it had better be right up there in the CGC 9.9 territory (well ok, maybe in the CGC 8.5 territory at least ) since it was a wall display book and I clearly remembered having to pay what was then an outrageous $5 for the book at the time and which was the most I had ever had to pay for a recent back issue back then.