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Seems like an awfully strong price for a Fight Comics. Is this particular cover now being seen by many collectors here as a classic GGA cover with the close up in your face shot of the girl with highlights right at the forefront of the cover? If so, I guess it's still not yet being recognized by Overstreet as such since he is a bit behind the market when it comes to these things. Another perfect example being Suzie 51 which still has not yet been broken out from its standard grouping so far.

Any idea if the copy of Ace 11 with the first appearance of the Phantom had this "Black S" grease pencil mark on it since you have the full run? Don't believe there's any other pedigree copy of this key book which came out quite a few months prior to Action 1. Doesn't show up on the Larson List or the Lost Valley catalogue since those are normally the only major pedigrees (along with the Church) that seems to cover that earlier time period. There is a Church copy out there, but I believe it must be one of those second hand books that Edgar had picked up afterwards. Especially since it is not listed by Chuck as being in NM condition like virtually all of the books that Church had cherry picked fresh off the newsstand. If it does, you might have just hit the jackpot as I believe that Fishler has been searching for a high grade copy of this book for the longest while, apparently without much luck so far as this is a real toughie to find and never seems to show up in the marketplace.

True. But if he’s looking for a CGC copy there’s only currently around 19 on the census and of those only 5 around that grade. It’s a pretty limited pool to draw from. I also think it will do much better in the next auction myself (great series+great cover artist+currently a hot publisher). Well, it's really hard to say considering that there's 3 unrestored copies graded higher than this copy here. So, I don't know how much more you can realistically expect from a CGC 7.5 graded copy, but then I guess you never really know with some of these auction results nowadays. Personally, if I was willing to spend this kind of money on a "non-early" Fox book, I would have gone after the much tougher to find Mystery Men 11 and then tied at the time with the Allentown copy as the highest graded at 9.0 in the CC auction last summer: https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?referral=EAlist&id=721161&title=MYSTERYMEN COMICS Now, that's an even much rarer Fox book with only 9 copies graded (tied with MM7 as the lowest census count out of the early Fox books) and what I think is also a more classic cover image as compared to the Wonderworld 11. Looks like the buyer was astute enough to snapped it up at only $3,900 for an old CGC 9.0 graded label which was then turned into the sole highest graded copy at CGC 9.2 and flipped back out for somewhere north of $6K. So, not so sure that a CGC 7.5 WW 11 will be able to generate much more than what it got here, but I guess we will wait and see.

Well deserved after all this time, but still what I found rather surprising is that Overstreet gave the second biggest percentage boost to All-American 61 with a gain of 26% (second to Wonder Woman 1 at 28%) in his Top 100 GA Chart. A big enough percentage gain to vault AA 61 into the #85 spot on his Top 100 Chart as one of only 2 new entrants on this list, with the other being World's Best Comics #1 debuting in the #100 spot.

I am certainly glad to see that Overstreet is right on top of the market again. OR NOT So, instead of putting Cap 3 ahead of Cap 2 where it most likely should be, he goes and actually increases the spread between the Cap 2 and Cap 3.

Of course I have never said that. I say that it doesn't make a difference in any consistent or quantifiable way. JD, you are nothing but a little party pooper trying to take the fun out of everything here. Doesn't my interpretation of what you said sound a lot better than having you come on here to clarify everything with your little salty grains of truth. How dull and boring.........after all, this is a long weekend and we should all be here to have some fun.

Makes me wonder if it's possible that these books came out from one of the early pioneer collector's high grade collection before there was such a thing as pedigree collections. Especially when we've heard rumours about possible pedigree quality collections of books before there were officially designated pedigrees that seem to have only started in the mid 70's. So, my initial suspicions were correct in that this collection may actually be a pedigree before the comic book collecting market had matured enough to have the early first designated pedigrees in the form of the Edgar Church MH's, the Tom Reilly SF's, the Cosmic Aeroplane Collection, and the White Mountain books which was the first SA pedigree. Now, I can understand why Fishler and the late great Verzyl refused to back down on their multiples to guide when I saw some gorgeous early Fox copies in their display booth back in the latter part of the 90's. Makes me wonder if this collection had been found and brought to market today, would it qualify for an official pedigree designation. Not sure how big it actually is, but seems to contain much of the same content as the small but high quality and much sought after Allentown collection of books in terms of the early Fox books and pre-Robin 'Tec books. I guess still having the highest graded copy of Batman 1 after all these years also certainly wouldn't hurt its case for an official pedigree designation.

I can second that motion. As per Barry S. at HA. Are you guys actually serious here? According to what Gator stated up above, the auction had already closed before the "glitch" took place that jumped it from the $3K mark all the way up to the $26K price. I guess the consignor of the book must really think the book had received real bids all the way to the final $26K price point then. Certainly can't hurt his chances though for a bit more than the $2,600 hammer price, as this little fiasco has indeed given some free "discussion time" to this book and it might just have brought it to some potential bidder's attention that had not noticed the very tiny picture that it had in the auction catalogue. Hmmmm..........astute consignor sees an opportunity here as this little "glitch" might just turn out to be a good marketing ploy that could work out to his advantage.

I assume this would be the chart for the Hulk 181 9.8 copies whereby speculators were paying for the CGC label (as opposed to the underlying comic book itself) back in the 2008 to 2009 time period. If you put up the chart for the various grades under 9.8 whereby collectors were paying more for the comic book itself (as opposed to the CGC label), my bet is that the graph looks completely different without having that long drawn out decline in prices.

God can you imagine how defeated people who own the top graded book feel when it's either pushed down or now has company? Ugh. As I have stated many times in the past, paying outrageous money for the highest graded copy of what is otherwise a common book, really implies that you are a CGC label collector as opposed to an actual comic book collector. Especially when you are really paying mostly for the "transitory value" of a label, whereby most of that value will disappear as soon as another equivalent or higher graded copy of that same book appears in the marketplace. I find it is much better to buy a truly collectible comic book whereby a copy in any grade that shows up in the marketplace, whether it be in equivalent/higher or even lower condition, only serves to reinforce the price that you had paid for the book and helps to push the value of your copy further up. But to each their own, I would have to say.

I guess this all-picture image looks a lot better with not only the removal of the cumbersome wording, but also from the removal of part of her encumbering outfit.

25-30k? Well, if that Church copy of Seven Seas 6 which I wanted so much (or only 30% of it would seem ) managed to fetched $25K, then this classic cover by Cole should also hit that mark easily. Although one of the distracting factors I find about this cover is all of the wording that kind of gets in the way of an otherwise masterfully crafted image.

Well, I believe we still have tomorrow to go which should add a bit more to the total. You can also add in another $560 plus BP for one of the lots which I am still leading in, as I just had to bid it up by a further $200. Now, I feel absolutely 100% confident that I will be winning this lot considering that I've gone totally bonkers and bid almost 8X condition guide for this book. OR NOT.

What bank is your safety deposit box at? Based upon the $25 price tag, that sounds more like a standard size (i.e. tiny size) safety deposit box which in no way would be able to hold a comic book unless you folded it into a cone. Now, if you can get a big enough safety deposit box that can stored mylared comic books safely and flatly for only $25, please let the rest of us know so that we can allocate more money for our comic book purchases instead of handing it over to the greedy banking institutions.

Dean, sometimes I want to take a baseball bat and hit you over the head. Many times. Now, now........you should know by now that Mitch is nothing more than a fellow collector without deep pockets like most of us here and is as harmless as they come. Well, not a baseball bat, but will a few hammer thumps to the head suffice for you?

Probably Yes, as the CGC 9.6 graded copy went for over $13K in the last Heritage Auction: https://comics.ha.com/itm/bronze-age-1970-1979-/the-incredible-hulk-181-marvel-1974-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7187-92391.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 Of course, that copy had the much dreaded White Pages, which Jaydog would say should have really knocked the price down.

So, is it possible that the consignor of this book did not get the max bid possible since it jumped all the way up to $26+K before the lot closed and then Heritage manually scaled it back down to the prior bid before the jump? Or hopefully for the consignor's sake, the auction closed at $3,120 and then the glitch happened afterwards to jump it all the way up to $26K.

Yes, methinks this copy here will definitely do it. Although it would probably do a whole lot better if they just found some way to get rid of that nasty looking label on top since it just gets in the way of that beautifully crafted cover.

Oh, I see now, you must be referring to this CGC 9.2 graded copy of Bat 1 that sold for over $567K on Heritage back in 2013: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/batman-1-dc-1940-cgc-nm-92-off-white-pages/a/7079-91013.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|1# Looks like the erased "Black S" marking would be to the right of Batman's cape near the right edge of the book.

Why, is this not the approximate going rate for a VF- copy of Wonderworld 11, especially with 3 copies graded higher than this?

Oh, you little poop! Spoiling all of our fun here, and just after I finished paying a whole dollar for that now worthless pack of grease pencil markers at the local loonie store. Now, I guess we can all go back and gross over that Teen-Age Romance #9. It must be that hunky guy on the front cover that's pulling in all of the big dollars. Never mind, I gotta run back to the loonie store and see if I can get a refund for my useless grease pencils now before it closes for the day.

Makes me wonder if it's possible that these books came out from one of the early pioneer collector's high grade collection before there was such a thing as pedigree collections. Especially when we've heard rumours about possible pedigree quality collections of books before there were officially designated pedigrees that seem to have only started in the mid 70's.

Yes, that's exactly what it was. All done by the same person as the shape of the "S" marking was all the same, just in slightly varying sizes if I remember correctly. But in all, still beautiful copies.

And that was a 9.6, right? While no slouch at a 7.5, it's definitely no Church copy. Wow, yeah, I'm just stunned at that one Just noticed from the Heritage scan that although it's definitely no Church copy, it is part of the so-called "Black S" collection: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/wonderworld-comics-11-fox-1940-cgc-vf-75-off-white-pages/a/7189-91100.s?ic16=ViewItem-Auction-Archive-JumpLot-081514 Apparently, there is a run of these early Mystery Men and Wonderworld books with the same "Black S" marking with the black felt pen and all of them are in relatively HG condition, with some of them possibly in even nicer condition than this one here. Saw some of them a couple decades ago and they were indeed beautiful copies that dealers were asking multiples of guide for even at that time. So, who knows, maybe more of these so-called early Fox "Black S" copies will come to market with this absolutely astounding auction result.

Craziest result in the auction, imo. The Church copy sold in last year's Berk auction for $19K. Don't know about anybody else here, but even with the missing coupon, I would have taken this higher graded with nicer pages copy that sold in the CC auction only a few short months ago: https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=719786 The buyer of the CC copy must be totally ecstatic that he had to pay only about 10% over condition guide for his copy while this Heritage buyer had to pay almost 20X condition guide for his copy here. As you correctly stated here, totally bonkers.