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Looks like they've also got a TOS 39 in 9.6 grade, an Avengers 1 in 9.4 grade, and a Dr. Strange 110 in 9.2 grade.

Well, here's the one for the CGC 7.5 graded copy of Archie 50: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/humor/archie-comics-50-archie-1951-cgc-vf-75-off-white-pages/p/7169-34002.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Preview-ThisAuction-120115 Can't seem to find the one for the VF 8.0 graded copy though.

Well, now that's what I call putting all your eggs in one basket, although they would definitely appear to be the right type of eggs. Hopefully, you've got more than just AF 15's in your collection though.

What a great looking copy! +1 I must say that no other collector's eyes are as such as Steve's when it comes to finding books with absolute color dripping covers.

Being the first Blue Beetle cover of all time definitely makes MM 7 a key book to have especially considering how tough it is in grade. Once you get this copy slabbed, it looks like you'll have almost half of all the slabbed copies out there. If you are trying to corner the market on MM7, remember what happened with Nelson Bunker Hunt and his brothers when they tried to corner the silver market back in the early 80's.

Somehow I doubt it. Why........you party pooper, you! Why spoil a good fun story with dry and boring facts.

Neither. I would use CCS if I wasn't using someone else who is delivering a product that is in my eyes comparable to Matt's best work and skill. But I still use CCS. So, no truth to the rumors or conspiracy theory that if Matt had identified the book as having been pressed by the competing company, it probably would have come back as a CGC PLOD 7.0 instead of CGC 9.0 Universal graded copy.

PL 14 cgc 3.5 went for $956 in the recent heritage auction, so yeah...hopefully just an anomaly since one hadn't been up for auction in a while, unless I missed it somehow. Well, obviously the consignor made a mistake of having it officially graded and slabbed for the auction. Now, if they had left it in it original Raw condition, it probably would have gone for $2K or possibly even more, similar to the other raw MM's and WW's.

that would be cool...but most of these issues whimpered in the Berk auction...and if his copies can't generate any real interest, then... Well, that's probably only because you weren't in there bidding like there's no tomorrow on these particular Centaurs.

I was the owner of it as a 7.5 and upgraded the book (yes it is the same book). The pressable defects were mostly non color breaking bends and other very minor fixable things, and there were some other things that were edge wear that if you simply took the time to do could be fixed. It definitely was some good, careful work. Well done then and very sharp eyes! Was this done by Matt's former company or was this done by the competing pressing company?

I bowed out at $1300. Wasn't even close!!! ? Yes, most definitely a very strong price for a Raw Good copy as the attached link would confirmed: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/mystery-men-comics-7-fox-1940-condition-gd/a/121733-12688.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 Reminds me of the Raw VG copies of Wonderworld 11 & 12 that were auctioned off through eBay in almost the same price range back last summer. Almost makes you wonder if it's even necessary to get these books graded and slabbed sometimes, especially when they already go for such huge dollars in Raw condition. Well okay......the Jon Berk CGC 8.0 graded Church copy of MM 7 did managed to go for over $13.5K.

Tough book- +1 Both this issue and MM 11 are definitely tough to find in grade as confirmed by the CGC census and also in Berk's auction when these 2 books were the only issues out of the Church portion of the entire Mystery Men run to finish below the 9's in terms of grading.

Well, you never know as it could be a portent of things to come. With the CGC 8.5 copy of Rawhide Kid 17 hitting into the 5-figures, maybe the Westerns are making a big comeback and the heat from this big bull run has finally cycled back through to the Westerns after a 50+ years absence. If long forgotten and obscure romance books can do it, than why not Westerns?

The latter two are from a different collection. Any idea what the prior grades were on these 2 books?

Actually, this is the 3rd sale of this book this summer. However, it was originally a 7.5 Wow ! From a 7.5 to 9.0. And yes, third time sale would be correct. Are you saying that you was the previous owner when it was still a CGC 7.5 graded copy of the exact same book? If so, were the pressable defects on the original unpressed copy so bad and such an eye sore that it warranted that big of a drop all the way down to a CGC grade of only 7.5? Or was the book left as is and this is simply within CGC's acceptable grading margin of error?

that's a really nice book. No MC and the piece out of the back cover wouldn't bother me at all. If the book is being given a 0.5 grading because it is considered to be Incomplete due only to the piece missing from the back cover, than this is where I find CGC's use of this grading to be of absolutely no use and possibly even misleading. This is the ideal situation where a Green Qualified label with the actual grade of the book, excluding the impact of the missing piece from the back cover, would provide so much more information to all parties looking at this particular book.

I agree, but doesn't that mean supply is greater than the demand? If not, how many unsold copies would we need to see on ebay to indicate supply is greater than demand? Actually, regardless of the GPA average, whenever I see a book in a BIN auction format as opposed to a true open auction format, I always assume the supply is greater than the demand at that particular price point. Especially if the book has been sitting there for an extended period of time.

most likely, these were bought by the person embezzling funds from Tadano America Corporation and he made the offers once he had secured the money. (just like the AA16 that sold in this auction for nearly 100K more the following week, the Action 1 that sold for 100K more, etc, etc) Oh yes, now I remember this big fiasco. Now those ridiculous post auction sales offers makes a lot more sense. Any idea if Heritage or the original purchasers of these books had to take them back in the end and give the proceeds or crime back? If so, shouldn't Heritage really be taking these unconsummated offers off their website because they are completely misleading?

i certainly thought so Being a former HG collector myself, I think that all books looks ESPECIALLY nicer in uber HG condition.

I did! Both were Centaurs that I was able to pick up for what I thought were reasonable prices (if prices are reasonable for Centaurs any more); AMF #21 and KDF V2#5. For me, it was a great auction! Glad to hear that you managed to pick up a couple of nice books in this auction. As for myself, I was shut out of this one, but I didn't really go hard after any of the earlier AMF Centaurs which I could have and I definitely could have taken a much harder run at the AMF 23, but wasn't really in the mood to that day.

In regards to the asm run, most of them are in Voldemort holders, so gpa won't reflect those Is there any reason why they would exclude the results for books graded by the other company since they should be accounting for all slabbed sales, should they not be? Of course, the ideal situation would be to have separate reporting databases for each of the grading companies, but to report on data for only one grading company leaves a big gap in their reporting of prices realized.

For silver age fans, no super nice af15 on this heritage auction But isn't the SA market so much more than just one book, even if that one book is the amazing and mighty AF 15.

Although I could easily be wrong here, I am not aware of any new overseas collectors or investors that are getting into the graded comic book game. Especially in terms of the local and overseas Asian investors that I know who have always gone back to their try and true real estate when it comes to investing their money. I know of so many local Asian investors who have put only 10% or 20% down on pre-build condos (o less than the cost for a nice mid-grade AF 15 with no MC) and then flipped them out in a year or less at 6-figure profits that they would never ever think of picking up an AF 15 for investment purposes since the potential return would be so much lower. And this is often even before the excavation hole gets dug in the ground in many cases. Another classic example being a non-descript house on the west side of the city that was brought for $3.2M back in early 2014 and then subsequently flipped 4 times before finally being resold for $7.6 a little over 2 years later back in mid 2016. Now, that's what I call totally INSANE and completely unsustainable, but still a better bet than what any AF 15 could give you. Especially considering that you've got the concept of leverage working on your side for you with real estate, which you generally would not in the case of comic books. Well, that plus the fact they would be entering into a new market which they did not understand at all, as opposed to the real estate market which has run in their blood and pretty much inbred as part of their cultural thinking for generations.

Speaking of strong prices for AS 3, the one that I've never been able to understand is the following: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/all-star-comics-3-billy-wright-pedigree-dc-1940-cgc-vf-85-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7054-91043.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 Why in the world would the subsequent buyer of this AS 3 not bother to bid in a high profile auction for the Billy Wright CGC 8.5 graded copy for less than $50K and instead, decide to apparently pay $200K for the exact same copy less than a week later through the Make An Offer to Owner feature that Heritage has?

Thought the spideys really struggled once you got out of the single digit issues. Since I really know nothing about current valuation for any SA books except possibly for AF 15, I'll just take your word for it. What's your opinion on the final price for the 9.8 copy of ASM 14 since I know that Magik had been talking about that copy for the past couple of years, and almost as much as his copy of Suspense 3.