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Don't believe this is anywhere near correct unless you are assuming that all sellers, including your average and Jane, which nobody has ever heard of must then have the same brand recognition and market reach as Heritage. Even Schmell himself went through HA when it came time to auction off his multi-million dollar Marvel SA personal collection, even though he has his own industry recognized auction site. So, there must be a reason why consignors are willing to pay the 800-lb gorilla.

Are you saying that this copy was undergraded or that the other previous copies were overgraded?

The color of the pages can impact the value of the book. I believe he is really asking why should the color of the pages affect the value at all, especially since nobody is ever going to be able to see the inside pages anyways when the book is enshrined in a tomb.

GPA doesn't. GoCollect.com does. GoCollect's data is relatively recent though, while GPA goes back over a decade. How much does GPA charge for their monthly membership? Looks like GoCollect only has data going back to 2014. Hopefully, GPA will add in the data for Voldemort's sales results, otherwise they would be capturing an even more limited picture going forward as compared to before. They don't data mine for PGX either and that doesn't seem to make much of a difference. I'd be happy if they collected CGC data from ComicLink and some of the larger private dealers though .... -J. Totally agree with you that GPA should be collecting data from CL as that represents a significant part of the auction market here. Has CL provided a plausible explanation yet as to why they do not provide their data to GPA? Totally disagree with your viewpoint on mining data on Voldy books as they are certainly not in the same class as PGX. This is almost tantamount to putting CGC on the same level as PGX which is preposterous from my point of view. Have you forgotten who the key people are in the new grading company, where they came from, and their decades of experience in the industry? Certainly not newbies they are just hiring off the street with very limited years in the industry. Actually, I believe the ideal situation would be for GPA to mine data from both (if not all) of the major grading companies and then keep this information segregated within their database. I believe this would provide the best possible source of sales data to both potential buyers/sellers to make a more fully informed purchasing/selling decision.

GPA doesn't. GoCollect.com does. GoCollect's data is relatively recent though, while GPA goes back over a decade. How much does GPA charge for their monthly membership? Looks like GoCollect only has data going back to 2014. Hopefully, GPA will add in the data for Voldemort's sales results, otherwise they would be capturing an even more limited picture going forward as compared to before.

Thanks Jay - as you'll note, the 3.0 listing wasn't identified as a CGC book in its title (not even the grade was mentioned). Hence why it wasn't picked up. I'll get it into GPA shortly. Does anybody know if they also collect the slabbed sales for the Voldemort graded books?

All I can say is that if you are shipping to Canada, USPS is the best way to go. If you use UPS to ship to Canada, you will most probably lose all of your Canadian customers.

$35k final? Wow, what makes you think this book is going to go for almost 4X condition guide, or am I missing something here? After all, this is only the introduction of the much laughed about Robin, not 'Tec 31 which we are talking about here.

Contender in what sense? Looks like a relatively strong price with 7 more days to go.

...meanwhile the Voldemort 3.0 went $2,700+ less than the last comparably graded copy on ebay. -J. Jay; Sounds as though the 5.0 AMF 15 may have been an outlier. From the post below, if we are to believe it, it would appear that most of the keys were very soft, not just the Voldmort copy.

$5.99 per month Too bad then......indeed, it looks like the free portion is really just a teaser and allows you to look at the sales data in detail for only 5 books per month. How does this compare to GPA in terms of both cost and information being provided?

Looks like a very interesting and informative website, especially considering that unlike GPA, there is no monthly service charges. http://comics.gocollect.com/most-active Yes, it would definitely be helpful, especially for the older books, if you can somehow convince the auction houses to also provide you with actual sales results for inclusion into your database.

One is such a lonely number.......we should find some way to get him back here again.

Wow, it looks like Jordy has a perfect batting average in terms of scoring 2 9.8's on his 2 OO submissions. Hope he brought a Powerball ticket for himself last week since the luck seems to be going his way, with as you would term it, 2 accidents of preservation on his 2 submissions. Is there a reason for the passive/aggressive comment? 9.8s, prior to the advent of CGC, are accidents of preservation. That doesn't mean they're difficult to find, or that it takes "luck" to get them. I've gotten thousands of 9.8s, and so have others. I'm not sure you understand what "accident of preservation" means. No, didn't meant to be passive/aggressive with you at all, as I find your viewpoints to actually be very enlightening. Just feel that accidents of preservation is too simplified of a term and probably not the best or most accurate way of describing how to get UHG OO books. I feel it's more a case of having the following: 1) Luck of availability; 2) Skill in cherry picking; 3) Intent on preservation; and 4) Luck with grading If you miss out on any of these four factors, you most probably won't end up with a UHG book off the shelf by the time it's all said and done.

Beautiful Non-jagged edge copies.. both in 9.8 Non-jagged edge vs Jagged edge - Wouldn't this be a more important criteria to consider rather than whether or not it's a Direct or Newstand I've never minded the jagged edge copies, personally. They add character to the book. Wow, it looks like Jordy has a perfect batting average in terms of scoring 2 9.8's on his 2 OO submissions. Hope he brought a Powerball ticket for himself last week since the luck seems to be going his way, with as you would term it, 2 accidents of preservation on his 2 submissions.

Shows you how tight of a grader Payette must have been as he had graded the Allentown Cap 3 as only a raw VF+ copy. From the Pedigree Book article on the Allentown Collection, it looks like almost all of Payette's raw grades were lower than their CGC grades for the books that had been graded so far. Almost makes you wonder how high the CGC grades would be on the handful that Payette had graded as NM/M.

Well, for me it would be the Adventure 40 over the 'Tec 31. The Adventure 40 is a much tougher book to find as compared to the 'Tec 31. In addition, not only is the Adventure unrestored, but the Detective has a bit too much work done to it to qualify as only Slight Restoration from my point of view. Finally, the Adventure 40 just presents do much better than the 'Tec 31. As for the second set, I would go for the Cap 2 over the More Fun 52. Tougher choice here and it would have been a no-brainer had it been a Cap 3 instead. When in doubt, always go for the grade (i.e. a 8.0 book is always better investment than a 4.0 book). Cap also has a lot more going forward for himself as an ongoing character, as compared to the Spectre. Also don't really care for the minor work done on the More Fun. So, no contest for me, it would be the Adventure 40 and the Cap 2.

It's suffering from a defect that CGCs notoriously harsh on, edge tanning. I don't think anyone of us would question a 9.0/2.. but a 9.4..... Are you sure about this? I have always thought that CGC tended to go relatively easy on edge tanning. It's the stains that they really apply a heavy hammer to on the books.

Yes, if the collection goes back to only 1967 or so, I strongly doubt that it would be designated as an official pedigree by CGC if it was a new discovery coming to market today. Still some really nice UHG books in there though, albeit not really that early or HTF in terms of pedigree quality.

subbed 20 Oakland books, none pressed. 1 9.2, 10 9.4's, 8 9.6's and 1 9.8 Fun to hear about these types of results. Comparing to current cgc grading do you think they'd hold the grade without a press? From what I have been reading on these boards here, it sounds quite conceivable that the grades will not only hold, but possibly be even higher based upon CGC's recent grading pattern. Always a gamble though, as you never really know what part of the grading cycle CGC will be in when your books are on deck.

Stunning copy +1 An absolute stunner here! Yes, I've also got a couple of Hawkeye's and they truly are astounding in terms of their overall condition. Wonder how CGC can authenticate their pedigree, given no real distinguishing marks or characteristics similar to most of the other GA pedigrees. I had this one graded and the lineage is direct. I bought it from Joe Smejkal within a year of him buying it from Leroy Mackey. I also have a Torch 15 purchased at the same time. Joe vouched for them both. If you have some verification CGC is very good about listening. Unfortunately, I usually didn't asked for the name of the previous owner as I somehow felt that it was in bad taste as though you was implying that you didn't have any trust in the dealer. With both of my Hawkeye's though, I believe the comic book broker may have proactively sent me a signed note stating the pedigree and just possibly, even the previous owner of the books. Not sure if this is good enough for CGC, but will check for any supporting notes the next time I have the books in hand.

Any idea what the earliest Oakland book would be? It looks like most of these books range from late SA to early BA or thereabouts. No really early SA, it would appear. Super nice copies, nonetheless!

what is FF? Fantastic Four most likely.....Sweet books btw. And I always thought it was Famous Funnies.

Stunning copy +1 An absolute stunner here! Yes, I've also got a couple of Hawkeye's and they truly are astounding in terms of their overall condition. Wonder how CGC can authenticate their pedigree, given no real distinguishing marks or characteristics similar to most of the other GA pedigrees.

Richard; It looks all sad and lonely sitting all there by itself. You need to take a "hot couples" shot together with its better half, the Allentown Mystery Men 10.