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On 1/23/2022 at 3:03 PM, Wipple said:

Type this

Thanks, that worked. I don't know how to find it any other way so I can't save it. Dang it

On 1/23/2022 at 2:31 PM, Wipple said:

What the heck, I can't find that page! So Amazing Spider-Man (2018)...That shows one with 76 issues (1-76), Venom Inc, Venom Inc, Wakanda, and Free Comic Book Day...

Where do you find that 800?

^^^ Was looking for 800

Thanks

I can't seem to find the later than 700 issues

So just to clarify so I can move on or not.....You guys are saying that the hording of non graded mint books will always keep this key low and will never allow it to be a "big hit"?

On 1/22/2022 at 5:42 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

$1,000 on EBay right now.   Who doesn’t love Deadpool? 

Not to get too much into it but at this point I'm so over that comic. Not only do I have several raw issues of it, I find it overall to be very over hyped. I'm a cover art snob and I find this to be one of the most unattractive covers. Not to mention Ryan Reynolds has taken it about as far as it can go IMO. I hate to say it but I think I have moved on from DP

So is it only gaining in value because of Youtube hyping?

On 1/21/2022 at 9:50 PM, Lpgk said:

YA is a $1K book on just one character so far, Kate.

I don't know if I'd say that. A hand full of them have already seen screen time and at this point everyone is excited to see what happens. If it turns into Avengers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 again at the same level of excitement then maybe more. But I think they plan to move onto Fantastic Four and X-Men. I can see the YA getting a tv series but that is it. Not only that but the original Avengers cast had some pretty big hitting actors. So far the YA are kids we have never seen. Hmmm maybe I'm talking myself out of this book.

On 1/21/2022 at 8:10 PM, MAR1979 said:

Key story most certainly. But a huge census population book in 9.8+, being DC that very much matters.  Prices did pandemic spike but that was "normal". Due to the spike expect the population continue to increase by leaps 'n' bounds. Most collectors have multiple copies of this this book in 9.8.  I know of at least 2 dealers sitting on long boxes (plural) full of untouched copies of the 1st print.   Everyone back in the day purchased several copies, including me.  I'd be very, very, very wary of buying it at even 60% of current prices if I was someone who was looking to make a profit on comics, which I'm not.

As for me "Jungle Line" DC Comics Presents 85 is my favorite standalone Moore 1980's stand alone story. "Killing Joke" for me ranks 3rd after  "For the Man Who Has Everything" in Superman Annual 11

Thanks for that information, maybe I will pass on it as they are reaching $300 now.

Sounds like this might be the first Batman book I read in my life. I'm intrigued by the ending where they share a laugh. Seems like this one might be a long lasting key too.

I don't know anything about DC but I like key books and I know this one keeps popping up as a must grab. Why is this book so popular? 

On 1/21/2022 at 3:05 PM, SuperBird said:

Get an ASM 252 then call it a day, if that's your guy. Awesome book. I don't even like spidey, and I want one. 

I already have one but I think it's condition is lacking. For as much as I liked/like black suit spiderman I have no idea why I only have 1 issue of ASM 252 and MSW 8

On 1/21/2022 at 11:56 AM, MisterX said:

Who's your favorite character?

 

 

Black suit Spider-Man or Captain America. That's an easy one... 

On 1/21/2022 at 11:45 AM, jcjames said:

My ... buy what you like, in a nice-presenting grade that you can afford, and nevermind the nosebleed grades. 

Also don't discount buying good-looking raw books. More bang for your buck that way too. Pretty much the only reason I've bought graded books is for the resto-check when I can't inspect the book itself in-person or when I'm not sure of the reputation of the seller. 

That's the problem, I don't have many opportunities to look at raw books in person. And if you look at raw online then you are taking a bit of a chance I'd say. 

On 1/21/2022 at 10:39 AM, jcjames said:

Although a 9.8 is still well within your price range of $1000, the question is - are you looking for one big key book of highest grade you can afford for $1000 or are you looking for nice-presenting big key books you really like that will also appreciate in value the most? 

 

I think the later part would be a smarter investment maybe 

On 1/20/2022 at 7:11 PM, jcjames said:

Yes, that's sort of the idea. It happens especially when books have been keys for a while. Now if you're talking about a more recent skyrocket like Special Marvel Edition #15 (1st Shang Chi) then the 9.8s appreciate faster... up to a point and that point is often reached rather quickly. But for long-standing keys, mid/high is a sweet spot for value and ceiling. But if you have your heart set on a major key that is out of range even in mid/high range, then by all means, get what you can afford whether it be a 4.0 or 6.0. 

Personally, I'd rather have a real nice-presenting mid/high BA book, and plenty of leftover $$ for the next acquisition(s), than have the highest possible grade that won't appreciate as much in value, and that's it. 

 

That is really good food for thought. Thank you!

I am wondering how you would balance this though. I know Batman: The Killing Joke is all over the videos I have seen as a hot buy now. And a 9.8 is still much in range for me so I was actually about to grab one until they get higher. I don't think in a situation like that a lesser grade would be wiser...? In your experience or others, is there a certain price range where you see this happening?

On 1/20/2022 at 6:47 PM, jcjames said:

True, up to a point.

But nosebleed books (especially keys) are really a waste of money - 9.8s do not appreciate in value to the same degree that 8.x-9.4s appreciate. Especially for keys that have been keys for a long time, for example...

For IH181 from 2006 to 2021: 9.8 average value increased 331%, 9.4 increased 800%, 8.0 increased 977%. 

For ASM129 from 2006 to 2021: 9.8 average value increased 253%, 9.4 increased 525%, 8.0 increased 1020%

For Bat244 from 2006 to 2021: 9.8 average value increased 71%, 9.4 increased 100%, 8.0 increased 1000%

 

Mid/High grade books are (in most cases) a much better investment than the highest grades* (past performance does not guarantee future performance)

Seriously? I would have thought shoot for the moon or stay home honestly. What is the thinking behind this? Does this just represent a certain area of money? For example when a 9.8 just gets out of range for normal people and people start focusing on what they can afford that area of grades starts to go up?

On 1/20/2022 at 11:21 AM, 1Cool said:

If I had to pick I'd go with one slab it would be a X-Men 129 in CGC 9.6 (may need to make a cash offer to get one for a grand at this point).  It's gone up a bunch over the last couple years but I still see it having room to grow over the next decade or so.  Killer cover and 1st appearances of two big characters in one book is a winner for me.

Interesting...That is one that has NEVER been on my radar and until I just looked it up I don't know if I've ever seen the cover. Was it cold until recent years?

On 1/20/2022 at 12:30 PM, William-James88 said:

Like a Daredevil 254?

What was the draw to that book? That is a cover that I remember so vividly when I was young as a popular book that I thought had a flat out ugly cover

On 1/19/2022 at 10:15 PM, Morganmi said:

Yea I know it was overproduced for that time but it is a Spider-man #1 in a series that went on for decades and is a lot cheaper than a lot of the really overproduced and much more expensive 90's keys in comparison. 

Not really trying to say that any one these is a sure fire bet but really just wanted to show that the OP could get a bunch of decent books with $1k that havent really exploded yet. 

And thank you! I will get that book for sure in a high grade. This is just getting me started, I could spend more but my CC debt is limiting that right now.

On 1/19/2022 at 9:37 PM, William-James88 said:

As I said, Namor is already beyond hot within the comic collector community. And not in the hype sense (like what you were saying with Nova). He's just a mainstay marvel character whos first appearance in GA and SA are no longer affordable.

And yes, the MCU will bring Namor in. Though he doesn't have to be in his own movie. He could show up in the Avengers or on a show. And he doesn't have to be a direct competitor to Aquaman. We have speedsters in MCU/Fox/DC and they are not in competition with eachother.

We'll see what the future holds, but you wanted a good recomendation for an investment and Submariner 1 is on the cusp of being out of reach for you, so I am giving you a heads up. You would have a nice higher grade silver age key book in your collection. You can't get that with FF or X-Men, but you can get it with him.

I think you might have convinced me on this!

On 1/19/2022 at 8:48 PM, Wolverinex said:

Low grade tec 359 or batman 181

What is tec 359?

On 1/19/2022 at 8:29 PM, jjonahjameson11 said:

So, Subby 1 is a Silver Age book…I think the OP asked about Bronze Age books

I'm ok with Silver too!

On 1/19/2022 at 8:24 PM, William-James88 said:

He will be in the MCU one day and both his first appearance and first SA appearance are no longer affordable. So he clearly has popularity in the comic world. Submariner 1 is your last chance at a good lasting Namor key.  But it's up to you.

And first Aquaman is also no longer affordable (hasn't been for a while). Although that particular book is a massive DC key beyond just him.

You think the MCU would bring Namor in knowing he would be a direct competitor movie wise to Aquaman? I see from now to 2040 being nothing in the MCU but Young Avengers, X-Men, and FF

On 1/19/2022 at 8:05 PM, Jesse-Lee said:

That said, I agree with the UF4 sentiment (even though it's not Bronze).

What is the draw to Miles Morales? I'm a die hard Peter Parker fan but I know Miles has a following...