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On 1/17/2022 at 9:54 PM, Randall Ries said:

2.5. I can give $90 for it.

Not needing cash this week, but I'll keep you in mind.

On 1/17/2022 at 9:52 PM, Lazyboy said:

Yeah, because $1000 is the same as $5.

Hey, can I borrow "5" bucks?

You missed the point. Point is even if I don't care for any of them, that doesn't make them non relevant.

On 1/17/2022 at 8:40 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

Same as the OP I grew up mainly in the 90's, which IMO by far was worst era in history to be into comics.  So we differ on that opinion.

 

Oh come on, explain why. We had the X-Men and Spiderman TV series on weekly. Great cover art and was the last era of true paper pages comics. It was glorious!

So have you guys made away like a bandit in the night value wise!? I know even in the 90's before there was CGC or anything you could get Hulk 181 for $300-700, ASM 300 were $20 books, X-men 1 1963 could be found for just a few thousand. Being a kid I had no chance at the big ones but if I had a job and was still into it I would be a wealthy person today.

Well I love going down memory lane and my whole childhood revolved around comics. For me in the 90's it was

1. Scarlet Spider. I never cared about the clone part but boy did I love the suit!
2. Nightcrawler. He was my favorite X-Men
3. Marvel action figures! KB Toys and Toys-R-Us just flipping through trying to find the hard to get ones. X-Men that would have been Deadpool, BLACK SUIT Storm, the white (not blue) Iceman, and Nightcrawler with the suction cups!
4. Marvel playing cards. I had books and books of them. I especially liked the 1991 edition ones.
5. Black suit Spiderman!!!!!!
6. Captain America. In the 90's you weren't cool at school if you liked comics and back then I would have believed you more if you told me in 2000's there would be people living on the moon vs several amazing Captain America movies!

On 1/17/2022 at 7:21 PM, darkstar said:

why are you considering spending a thousand dollars on a character you don't even seem to care about lmao.

Imagine people saying that about a Canadian short character back in the 70's 

I'm curious how collecting was back then. Luckily for me I feel like I grew up in the last good era to collect anything (mid 90's). After that the internet really spoiled collecting IMO. Before the internet you had to put in the work and physically go out and find your collectibles. It really made it that much more rewarding IMO. I remember weekly going to the magazine section of book stores or even grocery stores and looking through the comics.

But anyways, in the 90's it was pretty much all over and nothing really new happened. Even then we had Wizard magazines to give us heads up and all. But in the 70's or even 80's how was collecting? For example, in 1984 when the Spiderman alien suit came around or anything different did anyone know about it before or was it a huge "WOAH what's this?!" when you went to the comic stands?

On 1/17/2022 at 6:29 PM, Lazyboy said:

Which issue is Copper, you wonder? Well, both.

 

Copper? I'll admit I'm still learning stuff but I looked up bronze age comics and I read it is from 1970 to 1985. Both of these are 1984 (damn good year btw!).

I saw that thread but honestly I didn't know what to make of it. 3.4 mil for Secret Wars 8. Weird...

On 1/17/2022 at 5:34 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

After that OA sale, it might start to swing the other way 

What is OA sale?

Well I'll be honest, I'm a bigger fan of old Marvel vs the Disney Marvel. Without getting too deep into that I don't care much at all about Young Avengers but can't help but hear all the hype about it and I did see where Kate Bishop is in Hawkeye and I believe she will be staying in the movies. However the actress is 25 so by the time the "Young" Avengers comes out I'm not sure how young she will be. And then there is also the kids from WandaVision.

So with the 9.8 at $1,000 now. Is this one worth chasing or is the boat been missed?

On 1/17/2022 at 5:13 PM, Lightning55 said:

That's a tough call, like 'em both.  The 252 is $1000 higher in 9.8, so that's a bit of a hurdle.

But I wonder if that gap will get wider and wider or not. I really need both in a 9.8 to please my inner child. Black suit spiderman was my favorite when I was young. I have both comics obviously but I bet mine wouldn't grade much better than a 8 or so.

So which one are you liking more and why? I'll be honest the MSW 8 has always held a closer spot in my heart. I think I like the cover more

On 1/17/2022 at 4:47 PM, PunisherPunisherPunisher said:

Pity about those stains

2.5 at best 

Think I can get $90 back out of it? That is equal to about $164 today.

I want to let you guys know this. This book is my pride and joy. It's a "Oh my God is this really happening!?" book that my dad got me when I was about 9 years old. He was out of town on business and we talked over the phone about it because he wasn't sure if it was a "buy it now" or not since I collected them and he really just enjoyed it with me. Being a dad now I understand fully the amount of happiness it must have brought him to buy it for his son. This comic truly is the definition of my youth and the height of my collecting as a child.

So with that being said there was quite a bit of reserve for posting it up and asking opinions on it, in fears that I might be disappointed or other real collectors (you guys) might talk negatively towards it. I just want to say to you guys thank you. Thank you for liking the comic and speaking positively for it. Dad is gone now but I know him and I know he is smiling knowing collectors thought he did good for his son by grabbing it.

Again, thank you all
 

Yep, someone didn't take care of this one.

I saw a few websites that were mentioned to track sales and values of CGC comics and then I noticed they all cost money. Ok ok I get it, have to pay to play.

Which one should you invest money in if you are getting into this hobby ?

Another one from my youth. This time I added in the notes from the comic shop. Sadly it isn't in the best of shape but it is what it is. I believe the price on it was $90.00 and that would have been in 1995-98. Not sure what I will do with this one, send it off to get slabbed or what. I don't even remember getting it but it clearly was one from the back wall in the comic shop I went to all the time as a kid.

On 1/16/2022 at 11:23 PM, Lightning55 said:

You answered your own question a few posts ago.  You didn't say which ASM 55 version you purchased, but at a comp of $122/$124 purchased for $80, sounds like a good deal.

If the potential market value of a comic you are considering getting graded (or buying graded) exceeds a theoretical minimum number you have in your head, that's where you put your money.

You seemed to be asking which variant to have slabbed, and my response would be any that met the criteria above.  You wouldn't just pick one at random or even by advice if it hasn't shown to be of that minimum graded value that you establish as your minimum. 

People will have different opinions as to what the minimum is, especially if it's for the personal collection. Then it might not even be a consideration - just want it slabbed for personal reasons.

No I was asking which variant to go after if you were purchasing any said modern book. I ended up getting the first issue or original cover.

On 1/16/2022 at 8:34 PM, Lightning55 said:

Why slab any book that not proven its value in the market?  Keep your money in your pocket until you are sure of what and why you are spending it (good advice for money in general).

If you can't decide which one to slab, it's because there is no outstanding contender.  So until 1 version emerges as the "one to have", just stand pat.  There's no time clock ticking on this.  The grading companies aren't on the verge of folding.

Well ASM 55 above has been selling around $122 for a 9.8 (one just sold tonight for $124) so while that isn't a pile of money it is more than the book cost new. But I don't know what you consider "proven its value in the market". I figured why not pick one up in a 9.8 for $80 shipped. I love the cover of it and it will look very nice displayed. Buying it under market value was sugar on the top.

On 1/16/2022 at 7:05 PM, fastballspecial said:

I think what you said above is the reason for the problem in the hobby. Comics are meant to be read honestly. I know that
is a foreign concept anymore. Thinking these books are a good investment is the 2nd problem. Right now our hobby is flooded with card collectors who are slabbing tons of books. A new subset of cover collectors has now sprung up all thinking these books will be good investments. The reality is in a year or so the market is going to be oversaturated with modern slabs, probably copper and bronze too. If you are investing it better be for a decent amount of time because a glut is coming. 

I would advise to buy what you like and research what you decide to invest in a lot. Listen to multiple places for investing and be aware that many sites can occasionally have conflicts of interests. Start slow and diversify. Nobody talks about their losses.
 

 

I'm just trying to understand the thinking of collecting these modern comics that have 5-10 different variants.

Example: If it is a key book, which one are people looking for in 5 years when there were 6 different versions? What I think I have noticed is the I guess...Original cover art is the one that is assumed to be "correct" to chase. If that makes any sense...

On 1/16/2022 at 6:57 PM, Lord Gemini said:

If it’s not an incentive cover or store exclusive or other rarer variant, investment-wise, I’ve found it’s usually best to go with the A cover. Me, I tend to just go with whatever variant I like artwise and pick up a rarer variant now and again if I really dig it. It’s where I straddle the line between investing and pure enjoyment of the medium.

Gemini what do you mean "A cover"?

I'm getting to be in my later 30's and I honestly must say...I miss a time in comics when things were a bit more...basic. But as we all know the current trend is variants and it has soiled my collecting of new comics some. How do you know which one will be "the one" to pick up? For example...

ASM 55 has so many different covers. How can you possible choose which one to invest your money in on a graded version?

One thing it does have is really really good colors. I love this particular comic

Easily the jewel of my childhood collection

I know it has it's issues, but no rips or missing pieces inside. Not interested in selling due to sentimental connections with this book but I was wondering if there is anything that can be done to the book to increase the possible rating.