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Ultimate Fallout 4 CGC 9.8 just went for $2500.

It took ages for Miles comics to come down

Miles Morales: Ultimate Spiderman 1 Staples Variant 9.8 just sold for $7100 on comiclink 

On 5/24/2022 at 2:17 AM, doomwhistle said:

First off, let me be clear. This isn't an angry post. Just an observation from my last 6 months of book hunting on foot. And I am frustrated.

Is anyone else finding it increasingly hard to find any Silver, Copper or Modern day keys in their local comic book hunting? I live in Los Angeles and frequent close to 8 different comic book stores from Pasadena CA to South Bay CA. Nothing...and I mean nothing is in stock. Pre MCU hype and Disney+ PR, you could find many keys behind the counter. Heck, some were even in the bins. I remember picking up New Mutants #98 raw and even an ASM #300 in the same shop for under a couple hundred bucks in 2019. Now...nothing.

 

And when you do find something, prices are out of control. On top of this, surprisingly, the shop owners bemoan this current situation. They appear angry that they have no back stock and now make their coin on the numerous variants that are released weekly. Some even damn KeyCollector or other aggregate sites that drive hype for certain books and ignore others. Tourists come in, FOMO into everything and leave nothing behind. I even heard a few owners state the "no one is selling right now. People are speculating on what they have and thus not selling. Keycollector and GoCollect ruined it all."  Now, I am uncertain if this is entirely true given many things can influence collectible economics. But perhaps there is some kernel of truth in their rants.

Is anyone else experiencing this? How are people getting their books? Swap meets? Garage sales?

This is the case with collecting in any industry at the moment. 

Weirdly enough, UK comic stores and UK ebay sellers are some of the gold mines I've found over the past year.

I understand no one wants to pay for postage but I've found prices to be so much cheaper than a lot of US sellers that it makes sense.

I've found tons of US sellers and stores don't ship internationally which makes me think people from the US might not be looking outside of their back yard.

The MCU makes more money from international markets which will drive international comic sales.

Get out there and select 'worldwide' on ebay and see what happens.

Got this in the mail this week for about 1/3 market rate. Is a NM copy. Cant believe it.

Trying not to cherry pick too much but I've noticed a weird trend recently of new CGC slabs with smudges on the front and back cover. I've seen 3 in the last month on Ebay and asked the owners if the book itself was damaged. The close up pictures show clear stains / smudges in the inside of the slabs that can't be removed unless you crack them.

My god would you be pissed if you got a 9.8 and the smudge made it unsellable.

On 5/4/2022 at 7:20 PM, James42 said:

Spider-verse #6 raw copy just went for $362.

Others going for $250. More auctions up now going for big $$.

I bought a copy for $50 a month ago and there seemed like little interest. There's no new movie or series coming out that I'm aware of.

A CGC 9.8 is at $900 with 3 days left on the auction. Will probably go for $1500 if I guessed.

Anything happened recently to justify this pump?

$1500 with 1 day left on the auction. God damn

On 5/5/2022 at 4:59 AM, LudaToke said:

My understanding is that these characters were created by fans.  Sea-Spider is a pirate..........sooooo yeah I have no clue what is going on with this book.  By pure luck I happen to have it so I need to get is slabbed and sell it.

Yeah definitely. Can't believe raw copies are going for such a premium though

Spider-verse #6 raw copy just went for $362.

Others going for $250. More auctions up now going for big $$.

I bought a copy for $50 a month ago and there seemed like little interest. There's no new movie or series coming out that I'm aware of.

A CGC 9.8 is at $900 with 3 days left on the auction. Will probably go for $1500 if I guessed.

Anything happened recently to justify this pump?

On 4/29/2022 at 9:45 AM, Dimebag_D said:

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Based on recent Doctor Strange 2 trailers and captain carters appearance, will captain Carter #1 one shot see an increase in price?

 

Maybe but I think it depends on what role she plays in the movie.

On 4/22/2022 at 12:55 AM, LudaToke said:

I don't understand why this book is so valued?  I recently saw that it was increasing in value and remembered I had a copy from collecting the mini series a few years ago.  I get that there are a lot of 1st appearances in this but who the heck are these people?

Is this just pure speculation on potential appearances in the animated or live action spider-verse? Low print run? Why do people want to pay so much for this book?  I don't get it.

Low print run, low inventory of 9.8's and it's a popular spec book.

Kind if like Strange Academy 1 but not nearly as good (in terms of spec potential).

What was interesting was that this was an auction, so there's obvious interest there.

Spider-verse #6 CGC 9.8 just sold for $1125.

The last 9.8 sold for $37 in 2020

Spider-men #1 slabs seem to be selling like hot cakes on ebay.

Spider-men 1 getting bought up hard on eBay in the last week

On 4/19/2022 at 1:48 PM, lostboys said:

It's probably more the middle age collectors looking to 💰 in that are driving this frenzy. Kids aren't buying $1400 comics.

I still don't see Miles Morales being a huge deal to the next generation...just my opinion.

 

That's true. I think speculators are driving this rise too. But kids who grew up watching Miles and reading his comics most probably will want a slice of his history when they're 30-40 and have cash to blow. If you can find a 9.6 for a good price, why not invest if you have conviction? There's plenty of big fluctuations on auctions for 9.6s at the moment. 

Our views of things are coloured by who we talk to but I'd be interested to see who young people actually see as Spider-man (outside our circle of friends and family). I'm making assumptions based on small sample sizes.

On 4/19/2022 at 1:25 AM, lostboys said:

 

Why would Miles Morales be bigger than Deadpool, Rick Grimes and Venom? Based on what?

 

 

 

I'm sure there's plenty of people who think few characters can come close to Venom's popularity but I think Miles is already more popular. He's just being noticed by a younger audience. The PS5 game, the movies and the multiple successful comic series are testament to his acceptance as a quality character. They've used that acceptance by the community to make him a huge marvel property.

So many Deadpool and Venom fans are middle-aged now. Miles is THE character to follow and if you're investing for the long term, you don't invest in things that are popular now, you invest in things that young people love now and buy when they have more income. So many of my nieces and nephews are around the 10-15 year range and they prefer Miles to Peter. I don't argue with that. I use that to my advantage.

This is all my opinion from the investment side (not collecting) but wanted to share a viewpoint on why I think Miles will be a nice investment for the next 10 years +. I think opportunity is staring us in the face and we're hesitating because of things we liked when we were younger.

One very extreme but easy to use example is Tesla. Since it's inception, it's shares have been overpriced based on it's profit and production. Many, many people have tried to short it purely based on the fact that it's a 'cult and overpriced' and lost. What they didn't realise is what younger demographics thought of Elon. His perception as a Tony Stark like public persona pulled more and more people to buy the shares, no matter the logic thrown at it.

This is kind of like Miles at the moment. People are speculating hard on him because they know what he ultimately can become...and it's not a Peter Parker clone.

On 4/16/2022 at 11:53 AM, fastballspecial said:

Anyone keep track of how many variants and exclusives this new Twig will have? 
At least Scottie Young will make some good money from this.

 

I swear I've seen 10-15 variants so far. Kinda silly.

On 4/16/2022 at 11:00 AM, Beastfeast said:

I think getting in on Miles is a great idea.  I'd imagine there's a good amount of other people on this board who agree.  The point of contention being that NOW might not be the best time to buy.  Or there's a huge announcement next week and these prices will look good 

Oh yeah I agree. Prices are high because of our bias. It was so cheap to buy these books 2 years ago so we're all naturally going to be hesitant.

If Miles is this important though, I don't think these prices are nearly high enough. Just a question of conviction imo.

On 4/14/2022 at 10:25 PM, Wolverinex said:

Get an UF4.  

This seems to be the sensible option based on people's responses

On 4/15/2022 at 12:51 AM, lostboys said:

Id love someone to explain to me how the first app of Miles is ALREADY worth more than the first app of Deadpool or Venom (ASM 299) ?

Probably because there's more graded copies. It's incredibly easy to find tons of well graded copies of both books.

I'm genuinely fascinated why people are so hesitant to get on the Miles train.

It's fairly clear that he's the biggest property in marvel outside of Peter Parker. Prices are high because people have realised this and have conviction paying those prices.

If you don't like the character, that makes sense to not want his comics. If you do like him though, why not at least get some exposure?

Hi,

I've been mulling over the better investment decision for important modern keys.

As an example I have two Miles Morales keys that I'm interested in -

1. Ultimate Comics All New Spiderman 1 (Cover A) CGC 9.8 - approx $1100

2. Ultimate Comics All New Spiderman 1 (1:15 Pichelli unmasked variant) CGC 9.6 - approx $1100

Basically there's a trade off with grades and rarity (CGC census is 3355 for Cover A in all grades and the Variant is 468 in all grades).

I'm interested to see what book would you choose for a long term investment and why?

Thanks,

James

On 4/13/2022 at 11:17 PM, captainzombie said:

Just the standard edition, the variant would have been cool. I currently have both of the 2nd print edition in a 9.8 and 9.6, and I am hoping that I can get myself the 1st print here soon either in a 9.6 or a 9.8 with a few trades. I don't think we have seen the top yet with UF4 and once a live action movie is announced or even hinted at this book in 9.6/9.8 will probably get out of reach without paying some crazy amounts.

I'm interested to see, from your point of view, where the growth will be with Miles comics. By far the biggest growth in the past 6-12 months has come from his issue 1 comics, their variants, newsstands and other keys. UF4 has been stagnant for quite a while (which is normal after such a rise). Would you rather still invest in UF4 while it's taking a breather or go after his low print run variants that are considered 'ghosts' or 'very hard to find'?

On 4/13/2022 at 2:05 PM, captainzombie said:

I just bought a Ultimate Comics Spiderman 1 off of one of the FB shows tonight. Over the course of the last 7-8 months I've been building my Miles collection. I have this feeling that once Into The Spider Verse 2 Part Two ends, we may see Miles make this way through the MCU. I just hope that it is not Jaden in the role.

The standard edition or a variant?

It'll be interesting to see if UF4 values are already priced-in or if they get a boost from a live-action entry into the MCU.

The low print run Miles keys are going for staggering amount over the last few weeks.

Any thought of things slowing down after the war in Ukraine / inflation don't seem to be affecting Miles books.