Wayne-Tec

Dear Gator,

As we all know, an AF #15 graded a 9.6 recently sold for 1.1 million dollars.

There has always appeared to be (to me at least) something of a gap value-wise between the top GA books and the top SA books.

Last year the all-time comic book sales record was shattered and now...the all-time SA record has been shattered.

While there is still an obvious difference in grade between the top AF #15 (9.6) that recently sold and the Action #1 (8.5) that broke and still holds the all-time sales record, I cannot help but feel that there must still be a pretty strong seperation value-wise between the top GA and SA books.

It also appears to be the general consensus that the 8.5 Action #1 that holds the all-time record is not (incredible though it may be) the best known copy in existence; so perhaps I'm comparing apples and oranges in this instance.

Which brings me to my question and the end of my .

What (if any) kind of impact has a the million-dollar+ sale of a SA book had on the projected values of the top GA books: so for instance, the 8.0, 8.5, and Mile High Action #1's?

Congrats on your two more acquisitions Ryan. Me personally though, if I could afford 3 of them I would have saved some more $ and wait around just aqcuire a sup page.

Congrats! Great history there Ryan. Yes, a page with Supe will be quite welcome

Thanks guys.

The way I looked at it was this: the only "Superman" pages that I know to have been made available for sale recently have been the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd wraps that were auctioned off in the Summer of 2008, the 5th and 6th wraps that were auctioned off in the Summer of 2010, the Superman-story set of pages that "bluechip" Bob made available last September, and the incomplete/coverless copy of Action #1 that was auctioned off last September.

It's entirely possible that other examples have been made available for sale but if they were, I am not aware of when or where.

Seeing the jump in realized prices from the wraps auctioned off in 2008 to the wraps auctioned off in 2010, it appeared clear to me that we've seen something of an escalation in both the demand and realized prices for these types of items. I almost get the sense that collectors in 2008 weren't exactly sure about how to greet such pieces ... but especially in light of the $1,000,000+ sales at the beginning of 2010, collectors began to realize that incomplete parts would likely serve as the only reasonable opportunity provided to 99.9% of the collectors with an interest in Action Comics #1.

Whether collectors are looking for Superman pages or wraps to marry to incomplete copies or just to cherish as fractional remains of a book otherwise completely unaffordable to pretty much everyone ... I expect to see a continued rise in demand for such pieces; especially if available examples remain scarce.

We all know of the five slabbed "Superman" wraps certified by CGC (the ones previously made available by auction) and after speaking to Mark Haspel earlier today, I know that additional individual Superman pages have been slabbed as well. I'm just not sure of exactly how many.

Even with that being said...as far as I can tell, the pool is limited for available slabbed copies of Superman pages; most (if not all) of which I imagine would, and should command an even greater premium.

In my case, I thought it best to acquire as much of an Action #1 as possible while I still could. We may see additional slabbed pages or wraps made available for sale in the future, or someone could discover a box full of a few hundred Action #1's tomorrow, ... you just never know.

But almost 75 years after the date of publication and with demand seemingly at an all-time high; I felt it best and am happy to have been able to acquire a percentage of the greatest comic book ever published.

Wow, was all 3 from the same seller?

 

Nice

Yes, but these were all the pages that he had.

I already mentioned this earlier in the thread after I acquired the first of my three pages ... but when I called CGC for graders notes (just to see if they could tell me anything beyond what was already printed on the label), they did tell me that they slabbed quite a number of other loose pages at the same time. So there has to be others out there.

Since the back of my 31st page is an identical match to the back-scan of the coverless/incomplete copy that sold on ComicConnect last August, I feel that it is a pretty safe assumption that all three of my pages originated from that copy. (thumbs u

Speaking of Action Comics #1...

I would like to share with everyone, my latest acquisitions.

Three individual pages from the Holy Grail of our hobby.

The one of the far-right is the same page I acquired a few weeks ago (as previously shared in this thread); and the other two are fresh additions to my collection ... the result of my quest to acquire as much as I could of the greatest comic book of all-time.

While the 1st appearence of Superman is naturally the driving force behind what makes this book great; there is also much to appreciate from this legendary issue as provided to us by the likes of Bernard Baily, Sven Elven, Fred Guardineer, etc.

My page #19 features the introduction to the Marco Polo story.

My pages #30 and #31 are from the very back of Action Comics #1 and therefore feature not only the 1st appearence of Tex Thompson (later to become Mr. America and the Americommando), but had to have also originated from the exact sheets (or wraps if you will) of paper that were connected to the Superman story pages from the front of the book.

For us mere mortals who cannot afford $1,000,000+ copies or even low-grade restored 63K copies ... this is about as close as one can come to the pinnacle of our hobby.

I believe 63K was hammer

I believe so. (thumbs u

And it seems to be a pretty good deal IMHO.

To date, there have only been 9 complete copies (5 universal and 4 restored) graded by CGC in 2.0 or under.

That's a pretty limited selection to choose from for collectors without the spending power to acquire copies in higher grades.

63K might seem like a strong price for a restored copy at this point in 2011; but as has been the case countless times, we may reflect upon it years down the road as being quite a bargain in retrospect.

With less than 24-hours left until the end of the auction, the Action #1 on ComicConnect is up to 60K; any predictions as to how much it will end up selling for?

 

$82K

Seems to be about as good of a guess as any. (thumbs u

Although my personal estimate would be closer to 75K.

I guess we'll find out in a little under 20 hours.

And was that given a 'NG'?

 

I forgot...

It's not slabbed; but here's the link to the auction...

http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=406449

With less than 24-hours left until the end of the auction, the Action #1 on ComicConnect is up to 60K; any predictions as to how much it will end up selling for?

So what is everyone's prediction for the final price of comicconnect's coverless tec 27?

What is generally, the FMV for a coverless Tec #27 in this day and age?

Within the debate between Action #10 vs. Action #13; shouldn't content come into play?

 

Both are early Superman covers, neither is easy to come by, and both are great issues respectively.

 

Action Comics #10 sports the 3rd cover appearence of Superman (reminiscent of a scene from Action #2), 2nd unofficial appearence of Jimmy Olsen (still unnamed), and the CLASSIC splash that would eventually become the cover of Superman #1 (one of the most iconic GA superhero images in history).

Action Comics #13 sports the 4th cover appearence of Superman (a cover more popular amongst some) and features the 1st appearence of the Ultra-Humanite.

 

Both great books and while they're very close in my book, I have to give the edge to Action #10. (thumbs u

 

The bolded comment above is not lost on me at all. Matt and I wrote an article for CBM many years ago that led to the insertion of that comment into the Price Guide

Very deserving notation IMHO. (thumbs u

I prefer Action #10 over #13 for the simple fact that, as it was once pointed out on the boards, that the cover for #13 looks to have been drawn by Fred Guardineer (background, train, etc.) and the image of Supes lifted and reversed from Action #10.

 

while I love Fred Guardineer's art, I just like having a cover where I know that Shuster did most of the work on it. since he was one of the creators of the character.

 

but I love most all of the Action covers up to #67.

Holy Heartbreak Batman!

I still think Action #13 has one of the best GA covers you'll ever see; I just don't know how I missed that one.

Within the debate between Action #10 vs. Action #13; shouldn't content come into play?

Both are early Superman covers, neither is easy to come by, and both are great issues respectively.

Action Comics #10 sports the 3rd cover appearence of Superman (reminiscent of a scene from Action #2), 2nd unofficial appearence of Jimmy Olsen (still unnamed), and the CLASSIC splash that would eventually become the cover of Superman #1 (one of the most iconic GA superhero images in history).

Action Comics #13 sports the 4th cover appearence of Superman (a cover more popular amongst some) and features the 1st appearence of the Ultra-Humanite.

Both great books and while they're very close in my book, I have to give the edge to Action #10. (thumbs u

Do you mind my asking what grade your Action #1 is in?

yes

 

Saw that one coming...

 

I'm probably missing something right?

 

I figure that if I owned one, give what they've been selling for, I wouldn't want to advertise just how big a fish it was. Unless, I'm missing something.

Sorry, I wasn't thinking that way.

That would make plenty of sense. (thumbs u

Do you mind my asking what grade your Action #1 is in?

yes

 

Saw that one coming...

I'm probably missing something right?

 

 

Rick, our of curiosity...

 

Which issues from you run did you hang onto?

I have a 1, 2, 7, 10, 12,13 and 15...the "good ones"

 

I'd say so!

actually, I just realized I don't have a 2 anymore

the 7 , 10 and 13 and 15 are restored, the 1 and 12 are unrestored

Restored or not, those are some major books. (thumbs u

Do you mind my asking what grade your Action #1 is in?

 

 

Rick, our of curiosity...

 

Which issues from you run did you hang onto?

I have a 1, 2, 7, 10, 12,13 and 15...the "good ones"

I'd say so!

Here's another vault book that I forgot about:

 

Beauties everyone!!

 

My one entry:

 

Very impressive books guys.

I believe I've heard this mentioned before, but the cover to Action #20 looks a little "earlier" to me than some of the previous covers (Action #19 for instance).

Raniy day in Philly, and I had the day off, so I thought I would take an updated shot of my More Fun Comics run to date. Still have a ways to go though. The goal is 52 - 81

 

Impressive run Bill.

Those early Spectre covers are phenomenal.

Ok, here's my one "sorta" entry to the club:

 

 

And my one legitimate ticket in:

Welcome to the club Forrest.

One book signed by Jerry Siegel and another a true "Early Action"...

I've always been fond of the cover to Action #24.

Rick, our of curiosity...

Which issues from you run did you hang onto?

Those snobs in "Pre-Robin Tec Club" wouldn't let me in without a ticket , but I do have an entry to join "Early Action Comics Club" Wooo Hooo

 

I used to have several early Actions, but finances caused me to sell many of them unfortunately. Here's one I kept:

 

Presents very well for the assigned grade. (thumbs u

Welcome to the club!

So many great books! Here's my small contribution

 

Very impressive mini-run.

Here's my #23

What are the odds that you get the combination of a classic Superman cover and the 1st appearence of Lex Luthor all in the same issue?

Action #23 seems to have become even more popular as of late; as well it should be. (thumbs u

Sweet copy.

Here's my lone contribution to this thread.

 

 

One of my favorite Early Action covers!

This copy looks familiar...

Can someone refresh my memory?