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Right, I said that these books aren't showing long-term value, then you showed a book that in your words sold "a few days later" for multiples of cover.  What's the problem here?  You provided almost nothing of substance.  What more do you want?

Just now, kevhtx said:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_nkw=elektra+2+granov&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc

There ya go. Whether you like it or not, there is value in buying a book for $10 or $15, then selling it a few days later for $50, $60, $80. Is it the "long term value" that you want? Maybe, maybe not, but it doesn't mean its not value.

No, it's not "long-term value"... So, thanks for helping my point, I guess?

1 minute ago, ygogolak said:

It most certainly does.

I mean, I'd ask you to provide any kind of supporting evidence... but why would you start now?  

4 minutes ago, ygogolak said:

Am I being punked?

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/386506-celebrate-dellotto/

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/348450-the-official-j-scott-campbell-appreciationdiscussion-thread/

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/134235-adam-hughes-gallery/

 

How do those links support the position that there are covers creating sustainable value or demand?  A cool cover just doesn't drive value these days.  Most of the books in the threads you referenced are limited edition prints... manufactured collectibles.  They're the Bradford Exchange of comic books.

 

51 minutes ago, ygogolak said:

Huh? Cover art is one of the primary generators of Modern value.

Oh, and Neal Adams Batman books have gone through the roof the last two years.

I've not noticed cover art generating any sustainable value/demand... Can you name a couple books for me that are demonstrating cover art as a value driver?  

And Neal Adams Batman books have seen a bump in recent years, but his other (often more impressive, IMO) work?  Not so much.

On 4/23/2017 at 10:15 AM, ygogolak said:

Lots of great picks here!

Dont understand why that New Gods hasn't picked up.

Pardon my ignorance, but why are these books going to heat up?  

At this point in the hobby, it seems as though people are collecting first appearances.  Other attributes that once were important to a book's value (remember when Neal Adams covers were demanding a premium?) are greatly diminished... so what's special about these books, other than the fact that they are really nice covers?

Just now, SquareChaos said:

As you say, and there is the problem. Creators should leave the foundations of well-established characters alone; the readership is better served when they explore the ramifications of those things.

Totally agree.  So, I guess I'd ask the following:  Is Gwenpool making the best of a bad situation, or is a character like that making it worse?

It's interesting that the character design (as reflected in her representation in the cosplay community) seems to be outpacing the popularity of the in-continuity character at this point.  I wonder how often that happens?

4 hours ago, bcphillips119 said:

I think the new style of the boards drove a lot of people away.  I didn't really check the boards for several weeks and all of sudden started coming back.  Plus, the mobile site sucks and doesn't always load.

The desktop version isn't reliable either.  

1 hour ago, SquareChaos said:

The difference between the two characters is that Harley has corresponding thematic elements that work very well with the Joker while Gwenpool is a derivative knockoff character whose mere existence negatively impacts Spider-man's well established history 

"Well-established history"... we ARE talking about a Marvel comic book, right?  

I guess maybe the title of the thread should be: "Has Gwenpool Caught On?"  Is she a thing, or nah?  

 The Simpsons was a pretty damned hot book off-and-on.  Probably will be again, someday.  Futurama started off slower but is showing signs of heating up.  I'd wager the same will be true with Bob's Burgers... These comics are a fun way to display some element of art/fandom without having some trashy DVD case on your shelf, so if you've got a popular series, it'll probably translate to a well-selling collectible comic book.  

The more interesting pivot here might be to find examples of comic book adaptations of popular series that aren't collectible and then try to determine why.

 

I'm pretty excited about this.  I hope it's Justice League International-esque.

1 hour ago, Awax said:

Watching the X-Men Gold on eBay. 

 

That book is a  hot potato ! 

So stupid.  The book is still widely available ON THE SHELVES.  This is 

44 minutes ago, greggy said:

Post them....now

Has this been discussed to death?  I have to say, I don't like it.  It's definitely pushing the boundary of "manufactured collectible" and that's just not a path I'd like to see comics go down.

I hadn't ever really considered buying a sig series book until this past week when a LOSH #300* came up with signatures from Neal Adams and Keith Giffen.  It sold for dirt cheap (under $30) and I probably should have pulled the trigger, but I didn't.  I just don't get that excited about sigs.  Maybe if it was a Giffen/Maguire signed JLI #1...

*(This was the second comic I ever owned/read so it has some sentimental value for me.)

29 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Not sure what you guys are talking about as that price for the Ms. Marvel 3 is peanuts compared to what this other Marvel non-key book sold for:  

http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?referral=EAlist&id=689571&title=IRONMAN

Now, that's what I would call as an outrageous price for a non-key, but then it's really a case of to each, their own. 

Wow... That's eye-popping!  What's really weird about that is there were 53 bids.  Were there really two (or more) people willing to spend that kind of coin on that particular book, or was this a shilly affair?

New Warriors are listed in a similar way... 

Thor 411 - 1st appearance (cameo on last page)
Thor 412 - 1st appearance (full)
 

Any other examples of this?

58 minutes ago, bluehorseshoe said:

That Ms. Marvel 3 CGC 9.8.  Wow, but not shocking considering the census on that book.

Cheese and crackers... That's a hefty price for a total non-key.

Today is definitely lacking sizzle... Prices appear to be trending toward/above GPA, though.  (Or they are on the books I'm watching, at any rate.)

12 hours ago, Domo Arigato said:

Wasn't it a copy of Kamandi -The Last Boy on Earth?

And I believe part of the original shipping box was being shipped along with it and each boardie would add a little bit of art work to it.

Also, wasn't that the one that Brad (board member Redhook) kidnapped and refused to forward on to anyone else?

Yes!!  That's sounds right... So, Hook was the one who absconded with it?  Whatever happened to him?  Did he have a Green River meltdown?  

Hmm... The mystery embiggens.

(Though I'm pretty sure this isn't the original artifact.  That's a new(er) label and the original book would have had an original label, given when the whole thing started.)