Domo Arigato

This.

Yeah.....and did you go to the auction and check out the description for it? Here it is in its entirety: "AF 15. Condition is Acceptable. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail Express." Who in the hell legitimately sells an Amazing Fantasy #15 in that manner? Link to sold book

Where did I say (or even suggest) that your posting created some big conspiracy? The "bomb" post said that he was selling customer books.....and that one of the books being offered was now off the table because it had to be mailed back to "someone else", and he would offer another one, but to keep in mind it was hot and they need to sit on it for a while. Then you posted that he was indeed mailing some customers books back to them. I simply don't think it's a coincidence....that after all this time, he's finally maling some customer books out, and this "bomb" post just happened to verify that. I'm sure everyone (including me) appreciates all the hard work you've been doing behind the scenes to get customers their books back. But I, for one, am not going to be swallowing all of the horses**t Mike is dishing out. He is obviously following this thread. And I noticed last night that, after his eBay account link was posted in here, he went and changed it. I just couldn't post about it at the time because the boards were down for several hours. I'm also not buying that he's getting these high value books mixed up with his own when listing them for sale. He has become a master manipulator and excuse maker in order to gain more time for himself.

The way it's laid out.....I'm leaning towards it being real. Also, this person mentioned that Mike was offering a book up for sale to them.....then said it was off the table because that one had to go back to "someone else"....so he had another one to sell instead. THEN.......Sauce Dog comes in two hour later and posts that Mike is finally returning some books to customers. That's a bit too much of a coincidence for me to think it's not real.

With the current rules....as long as at least one "transaction" took place when the book owner and Mike were both board members, then Mike can be nominated to the Probation List or the Hall of Shame by the offended party. The Hall of Shame addition would have to be decided by a poll (created by someone who is not me). Also, before someone inevitably asks....according to Rule #1, Section d....(which would also apply to the Hall of Shame): "A Transaction between board members is not confined to the CGC Message Boards. Any transaction between forum members, regardless of the venue, is eligible for inclusion in the PL."

Finally found a moment when nobody was in this thread and I could see both numbers.

No doubt.....which is a slap in the face to all the other "peasant" submitters, and to what CGC was "supposed" to be when they first came into existence over two decades ago. Still taking a huge risk (for a huge reward, obviously) on a book that was worth well over 6 figures in its original 9.6 form. I've always been very careful with my more important books, but have still managed to make an occasional mistake. And I trust myself FAR more than the ham-handed individuals that seem to be currently employed at the world's preferred grading company. I've got books right now worth less than $100 I'd like to have graded and encapsulated.....but there's no way in hell I'll be sending them in with what I've seen over the last few years.

Only an increase of $1,117,100 over it's 2016 sale.

Always makes me wonder who has the cajones to crack and press a book like that. Wouldn't take much for it to drop in grade. Slightest handling mishap.......grading the day after a CGC graders bachelor party........etc.

That's how it was eventually.....but there was a time before that where it wasn't so clear cut.

My memory (and others can correct me if I'm wrong)....is that early on CGC didn't really have an official stance on it. I think (at one time) they said they would only flag it as restoration if they could determine for certain that a book had been pressed. Then, they eventually admitted that they couldn't determine pressing consistently and, because of that, it was not going to be considered restoration. That's when the floodgates really opened.

This was early in CGC's history, so was almost certainly before the time you are talking about. At the time, pressing was not accepted like it is now, and before it was even known that CGC could not detect pressing alone on a consistent basis. There were massive and sustained arguments for a long time on these boards during that time regarding pressing and if it alone should be considered restoration. It even eventually led to....if I'm remember it correctly....a group called N.O.D.....the Network Of Disclosure. But, I'm not even going to attempt to go down that rabit hole in this thread.

Prepare to be disappointed even more. You've only been here since 2019.....so I'm not sure of your collecting background or how deep your knowledge of CGC history is.....but this wouldn't be the first time something like this has taken place. I was always a big supporter of CGC and their service.....but make no mistake about it......CGC cares about your wallet. Period. And even more so after the corporate warlords took them over several years ago. I'll try to make this as short as possible to at least give you the gist of what happened, if you (or others) weren't already aware. Some members in here have a better memory, and can correct me if I'm not remembering properly. Many years ago, pressing was considered restoration by much of the hobby, and would presumably get you a purple label. However, someone started to notice something unusual. For example.....something like a high value golden age book in CGC 9.0 condition selling on Heritage for (let's say) $5,000. And then, months later, they would notice a copy of the book in CGC 9.6 condition sell on Heritage for $15,000. The problem was, after comparing scans and a close inspection, it was shown to be the exact same copy in each sale......only the higher graded copy had been noticibly "improved". This was before pressing was accepted, and before we all knew that CGC couldn't (or wouldn't) detect it and flag it as restoration. Long story short.....it eventually came out that CGC was offering a secret crack/press/resub service available only to certain "insiders". These insiders could purchase books with pressable defects.....have CGC press them to a higher grade....and then slab it in a blue holder so these insiders could realize massive profits off of them. Think how that would make you feel back then. You send a high grade golden age book to CGC, and they slab it as an 8.5 grade. Then you realize someone with insider knowledge bought your book....sent it back to CGC so they could press and slab it as a 9.4, and then resell it for 3 to 5 times as much (or more) that you got for it. After many examples of this happening were found (by comparing scans....much like what is happening now), CGC finally had to come clean and admit what was happening. This eventually led to their pressing service becoming public and available to everyone.

Somehow it makes me feel a little safer knowing AI tech is too stupid to realize when it sounds like a scammer. Although....I'd never say that to its face if it's carrying a phased plasma rifle in a 40-watt range.

By a zero feedback seller, of couse. No way to tell if it's accurate, but their location is "listed" as Cameron, Oklahoma....which would be 800 miles from Plymouth, Indiana. The listing also includes a typical scammer-type description with unnecessary information. Link "This comic book features the iconic superhero Spider-Man, specifically issue #700 of the Spider-Man series. It is a cgc signature series with a grade of 9.8, ensuring its quality and value. The plot of this issue revolves around the death of Parker, making it a must-have for fans of the web-slinger. The comic was published in 2013 and falls under the category of comics and graphic novels, as well as collectibles. It is a great addition to any comic book collection and a must-have for Spider-Man enthusiasts.signed by saviuk,conner,van sciver,perez,palmiotti,bagley,hor"

This will require a poll. @THE_BEYONDER

I remember when he threatened to destroy CGC. Well played, Dylan..........well played.

Guys.......relax. You too can learn the secret to this money making hack by simply subscribing to "The System".

Submit with confidence. All books are handled with extreme care to prevent damage and are stored in a secure vault.

Since this is comic related and involves the loss of such huge amounts of money for people from a number of different states.....is this something that perhaps @esquirecomics could get involved with?

The address listed on their Facebook page is 575 Harding, Zanesville, OH What is the address listed on the backing boards you got from them?

Very sad to hear this. Deepest condolences to his family and friends.

Between this thread and the previous one, it's mind boggling to think of the amount of money that is now just gone. Not to mention the value of the books he is holding onto that don't belong to him.

I only buy books when the ad contains any of the following statements: Will only go up in value ! ! ! Rare ! ! ! CGC it ! ! ! If the listings in this thread make any of those claims, then I highly recommend you buy them.