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@Gaard : Totally, but on those higher graded books the defects should obvious and few meaning way less work for notes than a book graded 2.5? I’d be fine with no notes on 9.6 with a larger obvious spine tick or blunted corner but when it’s not completely obvious notes should be provided. Most of those defects could easily be selected/generated from a checklist with minimal time consumption I bet which bring us right back to your plausible theory… … … 😬

@Gaard : If notes were created they’re free but they’re not always created when graded. I have some (what I thought were very clean books that I spent a lot of time examining before sending) come back at 9.4/9.6 and no notes available. 😭

@Stelly Stel : And yet I have more then a few 9.6/9.4’s with great corners and minimal to no visible spine damage w/ no grader’s notes while other books with more damage came back as 9.8? I’d pay five bucks to know exactly why this is?

Hi there, does CGC forgive/grade differently books that contain the same production defect on a very high percentage of copies of the same run? A recent Marvel series contained significant stress marks on the spine across the entire run on what appears to most copies (I emailed and asked more than a few large online sellers to inquire). I purchased a few graded copies of the incentive covers from this run after all my copies arrived with stress marks in the same location on 20+ books consisting of variants and incentives. The graded 9.8’s had 4-5 stress marks, some with a few ugly ones clearly visible from the front and additionally the very slight corner fold tears common on Marvel books. I’ve sent in books with near perfect corners and no spine stress marks and only hit 9.6? I’m having a hard time finding how this happens on three graded copies, bought from different sellers on Ebay, on a run that had consistent damage on most/all books and variants? Can you offer some insight?

Thanks!

Hi there, does CGC recognized sealed/untampered with Marvel Limited Treasured Editions as a verified signature? This wasn’t my book pictured but it’s similar. Thanks!

Hi there, after delivery to CGC’s P.O. box, how long does it take for a mailed-in submission to become trackable?

Thanks! I forget that he does appear on the cover too which helps with the case for issue #1. Consider Key Collector Comics definition of a cameo versus full appearance “we are defining cameo as a brief appearance - one in which the character is seen as a teaser for a future issue.” This is exactly what hangs me up on this appearance. Does a cover appearance, an extremely brief mention in a different characters bio, a verbal mention as a plot device for a completely different story objective (find the pilot defector), and a very brief appearance in a flashback (with no dialog) remembered with a degree of bias by a different character amount to a full first appearance if all of those elements (none of which can stand alone arguably) ultimately work as a tease for actually meeting the character in issue #2? In the end the market decides and we all sorta do a hard shrug but this one may stick with me forever because the parts that may make up a full first appearance also make up a solid case as a tease for the following issue’s appearance. *runs off crying* 🤣

Man, I never was very good with grammar tenses and this ain’t helping. 🤣

Thanks Adamantium! When I get a bit better I’ll throw some art up for sure. I’m hoping Spider-man 2099’s presence keeps growing and we see a bit more of the 2099 universe too. Steve Orlando did a solid job in my opinion offering both new and old characters in Spider-man 2099 Exodus with single issue stories that managed to further a greater narrative. The new X-men 2099 team in issue #5 was stellar too. Nice to meet you! 👍👍

For sure, I’ve actually made a similar case to KeyCollector recently even though I have both books. As a relatively new collector I was hoping to see how others view these things a bit. The market will decide of course but I find it interesting how and why we form these decisions and based on what criteria? Hopefully some of those that have been around a lot longer aren’t annoyed by this. 🤣

Hi everyone, my name is Mike and I’ve been a reader for about a decade but only collecting seriously for about a year. I also draw a bit and tend to like art styles before the Image revolution in the late 80s/90s. My favorite books this last year were Spider-man 2099 Exodus, Do a Powerdrop, The Last Ronin, and the goofy fun of Jurassic League. I Can’t wait to absorb some knowledge from you all. 🤩👍

So full confession : I’m a huge fan of Saw Gererra and think he has a great story to tell relevant to the often ugly bleeding edge of rebellions in general. Consequently I’ve been struggling with Saw Gererra’s 1st full appearance being listed as Rogue One Adaptation #1. I’ll admit my definition of what a cameo and full 1st appearance is evolving the more I read and collect but here goes : In #1 of the Rogue One Adaptation Saw is mentioned as an associate of Jyn Erso in the “Rebel’s Report on page one w/a small picture. This section is solely about Jyn. Saw is mentioned a few times as a story device to connect the rebels with the pilot that defected. The story teases the objective of finding Saw to reach the pilot but the actual meet-up doesn’t occur until issue #2 when Saw appears in full. This seems like a classic cameo character tease. Finally, when we do see Saw in the comic it’s in a few panels. He’s recognizable but we only clearly see him from the front in one panel and he has no dialog. This is a flashback and from the perspective of Jyn. This is nuanced but nothing here amounts to us learning much about the character and none of what we do learn is from the character themselves. All of that comes from the second issue when we meet Saw in earnest. Issue #1 is a first appearance in comics and issue #2 is the first full appearance I believe. Any Star Wars fans with thoughts about whether this has merit or not? 😬

Thanks Matt, that’s very helpful! 👍👍

Hi there, I’ve found a few threads concerning this question with some conflicting responses so I thought I’d ask directly. Can foil covers be pressed through CCS? Are there any special considerations or restrictions if so? Any qualifiers in regards to expected results or risk? Thanks!

I really appreciate the input everyone, thanks again.

Sorry, the top right (front facing) may have an ever so slight bit of blunting too.

Hey! I believe the top is a very slight impact of some sort and the bottom may be a chip. Both defects show a great deal less from the front oddly.

Hey everyone! The spine stuff is difficult to photograph on this one but the top staple has something in the vicinity and there are very small breaks in color on the black line that runs the length of the spine but these are smooth to touch and have no other signs of being a crease/tick. Thanks for the consideration. 🤩👍

Hi there, new to grading/slabs and was wondering if an already slabbed book can be submitted for a prescreen and If the book doesn’t hit the desired grade returned still in the original slab? Just to clarify a friend has a batch of 25 grade prescreen books going out and not knowing how in depth a prescreen is I was curious if this could be done while a book is still slabbed from a previous grade? I’m guessing not but never hurts to ask. 😬🙏

I think you’re right on this. Most of the spine looks normal but near that white spot in the top left corner you see more wear starting about an inch away. Thanks much for the input!

Hi everyone! I’m relatively new to grading and CGC submissions and was hoping to gain some insight from this book. What I still have a hard time gauging is the manufacture damage on the corners. How would corners like this effect grade overall? What do you think an overall grade may be? Thanks and glad to be on the forum.

Just for reference here are some pics of a better copy. There is still some of the variable “scratchy” effect on the spine. You can see very slight marks in the center from what I may have erroneously believed was some sort of feeder mechanism? On worse copies the central marks will scuff the foil and scratch off ink along the entire mark as well. Whatever made contact at that point in production left a mark on a ton of copies. The horizontal line where nothing prints is present as well. The ink saturation is much better on this too.

Hehe…no worries. This was the most messed up of 20 copies and shows the defects more clearly. Definitely not being submitted. I think maybe 3 out of the 20 copies I got in a lot may be legit 9.8 contenders depending on how CGC views what may be very common production defects. I love this book and the Kenshiro “Zero” Cochrane Ghost Rider 2099 though and was hoping to get one or two 9.8’s out of the lot.

Hi Yorick, thanks much for the welcome! The paper itself is a heavier weight card stock and feels smooth. These particular copies I can confirm have been properly bagged and boarded since release. I have friends who also have this book and their copies have similar markings, wear, lines, a significant spine tick on the same spot (maybe 40% of the copies I’ve seen escape this defect but very common on Ebay listings), and whatever the full-book horizontal marks up the center. Every copy of this book I’ve seen has had some variation of these defects as well. The census currently shows 45 9.8’s/31 9.6’s. I’ve yet to see a slabbed 9.8 in person to gauge how much consideration CGC may give to what seems like commonly occurring defects. The funny thing is on the covers with a smaller amount of the “scrapy” effect it actually works with the metallic effect the art is shooting for - a worn metal look. I’m guessing I’ll have to either submit a copy or find a slabbed 9.8 to view? I really appreciate the info on printing as well. Really interesting stuff.