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New X-Men #128 cgc 9.8 - $306 on ebay. anomaly or sustainable? were at least 3 bidders who took it way past previous levels.
Should be lots of ungraded 9.8s out there.
Not sustainable past the point where a flood of them get sent in to be graded based on this sale (and any other 200-300 $ sales, if they occur)
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Ah leave him alone. He was happy to buy the book.
We all learn stuff as time passes.
He might still be happy with the book. He might not be.
Either way, live and learn.
He'd probably get a pass, if he hadn't come in with:
I have a few questions for our board appointed economics professors (I play one at the local University in real life, by the way).
That sort of hubris will earn you an 'I told you so' every time.
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all this thread needs now is Larry
He was here a couple of days ago.
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Complete speculation based on nothing but my gut instinct - the next Chew is a Dark Horse book coming out in the next few months.
What's the last hit that Dark Horse had?
What's the last non-movie-property hit that Dark Horse had?
Hellboy?
Look what they've done to you.
At least the Chief escaped.
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I'm amazed at how many people will not buy slabbed books because they want to read them. I hear it all the time at cons listening to other customers talk. I've told people exactly what you said about cracking it open, but they can't seem to process it.
+1
Somehow the idea of buying a slab and cracking it does not enter people's minds.
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Enjoy your stay good sir.I'm sure you are much wiser than I,please save me from the comic nonsense on the internet.I will follow you because I don't know any better,thank you for saving me.
Man! you started calling me names first, i was just expressing myself. you dont know me, i dont know you. i never said i was right i just said think outside the box.
That's not outside the box thinking. It's stating the obvious. The simplistic point you're making is well known to this community.
Maybe let the WizardWorld boards in on it.
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i hope so. like i said oak i never meant to offend anyone just to give people a differentiate perspective, not to invest their life saving on what someone sees on here rather to do research yourself and invest on what you think is worthy. i hope you can understand that.
This board is extremely knowledgable. Bringing this point up here is like pointing out to an astronomy board that the sun rises in the east.
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very true, maybe im not here to make friends but think about this, this thread alone has over 10500 hits what does that mean? seems to me that this is an advertisement. good hard working people are paying top dollar for this books to flip/make a profit. I only asked for sources of information to conform these claims of being "hot". rather then beating around the bush
Would TWENTY-SIX links in support of a claim qualify??
Vengeance of Bane has been pretty hot for the last 5 to 7 months!! But it's really been taking off lately!! When Raw Copies were hitting the $30 to $40 price a few months ago I thought it was going to stay at those prices until the New Batman Movie comes out.Boy I was wrong about Raw Copies staying at around $30 to $40!! They've been consistently selling for around $60 to $90 in the last 2 months!!
Here's some links to what they've been selling for!!
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Vengeance of Bane has been pretty hot for the last 5 to 7 months!! But it's really been taking off lately!! When Raw Copies were hitting the $30 to $40 price a few months ago I thought it was going to stay at those prices until the New Batman Movie comes out.
Boy I was wrong about Raw Copies staying at around $30 to $40!! They've been consistently selling for around $60 to $90 in the last 2 months!!
Your contributions to this thread are much appreciated.
Thank you for the legwork you've done.
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Newsstand copies.
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And there are crazy rich people to presume that even a crazy person would limit themselves to not buying this is full hardy.
As opposed to the less spendthrift half-hardy.
A full-hardy man is good to find, said the lady.
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My response of 25k was just from a search in another thread here. Someone said it was sold for 25K in 2007. Doesn't seem right to me though.
It may have sold for that, but it wasn't in 2007.
Think the vendor was asking $45k for it at SDCC around 2005 so would be surprised it he accepted a "low ball" offer of $25k straight cash.
Which is exactly why I said what I said. If it sold for $25k it was long before 2007. (thumbs u
Sold in 2002(?) by the Hawaiian guys - can't remember their name.
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No way this is real, and it's probably a PR stunt to get all the funny book nerds fired up and calling out the CL brand name - and it worked!!
I for one, would like to know payment was made before marking this up as a sale.
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You need an avatar. Use this one.
My daughter wears a halter top just like yours, Harold.
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You have a sick mind, please seek help.
He has a full staff of doctor's on these boards. Don't worry about him.
DR.X
But he never pays his bills...
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Yes the CGC is responsible for the Watchmen #1 price being 3k initially. The CGC is aware that the first copies will sell for outrageous prices. We all know this. The CGC could put other measures in place to prevent the prices from getting out of hand, and to prevent from people losing money. I know that is a strange idea to entertain, but it would prevent a lot people from getting seriously hurt. You don't mind watching others get hurt sir? Oh it's their fault right that they trust a CGC product to maintain it's value.
CGC is responsible for grading comic books. Period. They do not control the end market. Their business is simply to accept comic book submissions, and grade these books as accurately as possible.
End market prices, and buying decisions are in the hands of the individual buyers. The end result of those buying decisions are likewise the responsibility of the buyers.
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If DD turns out to really be Mr Koos/Robojo33 and it is public record please forward this information so I can put this as part of a puzzle I am assembling for Ebay.
Let's just assume he's a slow reader and is still plodding through all the info.
And that he's the Devil's Advocate incarnate
I know he IS, but without a piece of paper that says he is I can't do my Ebay thing.
He isn't. He's the common-law partner of DD's mother. Richard Koos, night nurse. I suspect he'll be having second thoughts about helping out 'that no good son of hers' when the subpoena arrives.
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On top of that, I don't know of anyone resubbing 9.8s in hopes of a grade bump. Really?
Surely not pre-1990 newsprint, flimsy stock books?
Hey, you know me. If I think something's got a strong shot at a 9.9, it's not without reallllllly good reason.
As someone who has had several books fail a 9.8 pre-screen, only to be subsequently graded 9.8 on a second go-round, I can tell you for sure that "cusp" books can go either way.
I currently have two books sitting in 9.8 slabs that are legit 9.9 copies, and which will be cracked and re-subbed at a time when I feel the grading is most in my favor (keeping in mind that this is two our of several hundred 9.8s)
There aren't many people who could reasonably resub a 9.8 hoping for a 9.9. You'd be one. Still,
on the size of the cajones required to resub a 9.8... Caveat #1: I would never do this with an already slabbed book, because there may be flaws which prevent it from being higher than a 9.8 that are not visible outside the slab. This only works when I had the chance to sub it myself and physically inspect it. Otherwise, it's just, at best, a waste of another slab fee.With you there. It'd be very easy to miss a subtle surface scuff through a slab.
Caveat #2: I only do this with relatively low value (in 9.8) books and books that I know have at least an outside shot at a 9.9. For example...my Primer #5 9.8 and Strangers in Paradise #1 9.8 will never see the outside of those cases while I own them. 9.8s they are (and the SIP had the benefit of being reviewed TWICE), but they are legitimately 9.75s. Better than a 9.7, but not quite 9.8 enough to absolutely remain 9.8 on resubmittal (and pressing will help neither.)Yeah, and this is the rub with a book like Hulk 181. Who is resubbing a 9.8 hoping for a 9.9, realistically? The chance of a 9.6 regrade probably outweighs the lottery hope of a 9.9. And that's without considering the chance of untoward events, like namisgr's OO ASM 121 that suddenly developed a paper clip impression.
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Respectfully disagree with the idea that there will be a handful of Hulk 181s in 9.9 shortly. Heck, even THIS Hulk 181 isn't a 9.9, as attested to by those in the thread who've actually seen the comic in person.
I had the near-perfect copy I bought off the rack pressed, and the best it was able to do with CGC was 9.6. Even a(nother) warehouse find of this comic is extremely unlikely to yield any copies genuinely deserving of a 9.9 grade.
I would say that the odds that at least one other 9.9 Hulk 181 will appear at some point are much higher than the odds that there will never be another 9.9 or 10.0 Hulk 181. At least I know which bet I would take.
of course you can make this comment, the odds are in your favor, there are still thousands of ungraded hulk 181's.
Well, various posters in this thread that I respect, including Bob, seemed to be saying they didn`t see another 9.9 copy coming along anytime soon.
My point was that anyone who`s willing to pay any sort of $80K price for this 9.9 copy is essentially betting that another one will never appear, and that`s not a bet that I would ever take personally.
I agree with you, and, like Bob S, was responding to the idea that 'a few' more 9.9s would surface. I'd take the same bet you would. The biggest question is whether some of these shelf bought copies will surface, or whether the owners are lifers, like the 95 year old owner of the Savannah collection. As i said before, the low hanging fruit has been plucked.
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On top of that, I don't know of anyone resubbing 9.8s in hopes of a grade bump. Really?
Surely not pre-1990 newsprint, flimsy stock books?
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The 9.9's are hard to come by, no doubt. But you can't deny that pressing is probably being applied to books in multiples of, something around 5-6 times more then it was done 8-9-10 years ago.
A 9.9 book will always be a freak of nature, as you said, but it only takes a handful to bring down the value of the one, and I just think, due to in no small part to the fact that there are scores of this book exisiting, we are going to have a handful eventually.
I am completely with you on the concept that we will see a handful of 9.9's within 5 years.
OK. How is this going to happen?
We've discussed pressing, and the fact that the micro defects that separate 9.9s from 9.8s are near universally not pressable.
CGC has been up and running 10 years. Hulk 181 is one of the most subbed books. One 9.9 has been graded. Dealers and collectors have subbed the low hanging fruit.
So where do you see these 9.9s coming from.
From the increasing pool of 9.8's. (thumbs u
OK. How?
These things aren't wine. They don't improve with age.
What's going to turn these 9.8s into 9.9s? Pressing won't.
On top of that, I don't know of anyone resubbing 9.8s in hopes of a grade bump.
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The 9.9's are hard to come by, no doubt. But you can't deny that pressing is probably being applied to books in multiples of, something around 5-6 times more then it was done 8-9-10 years ago.
A 9.9 book will always be a freak of nature, as you said, but it only takes a handful to bring down the value of the one, and I just think, due to in no small part to the fact that there are scores of this book exisiting, we are going to have a handful eventually.
I am completely with you on the concept that we will see a handful of 9.9's within 5 years.
OK. How is this going to happen?
We've discussed pressing, and the fact that the micro defects that separate 9.9s from 9.8s are near universally not pressable.
CGC has been up and running 10 years. Hulk 181 is one of the most subbed books. One 9.9 has been graded. Dealers and collectors have subbed the low hanging fruit.
So where do you see these 9.9s coming from.
Moderns that are heating up on ebay!
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My pre-unity stuff went out the door in exchange for SA Marvel.