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THANK YOU!! The photos are amazing. Thanks for posting that.
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Really? How's that stash of "Pogo" going for you?
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Hmmm. I think an argument can be made (at least for me) that I've overpaid many times. Are those pieces worth more than I paid? Yes. But, that doesn't mean I didn't overpay when I bought it. This is a hobby of one of a kind items. Comps (and friends) are super important, but I think it's unlikely that anyone who has been in this long enough hasn't overpaid for a piece. Of course, defining overpaying is a bit of term of art in this case.
I think the same goes for losing money on a piece. Unless you have either (a) unlimited resources or (b) the strength of will to pass up a piece you want, you're probably going to have to sell at some point. And, sometimes, you take a loss. I know I have. But, I used the funds to get something else that I wanted more. Maybe I'm lucky that I can live with that.
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Michael, with all respect, a John Buscema Silver Surfer page and a John Buscema Avengers page with the Silver Surfer drawn 27 years later is a really good example of apples and oranges. The question the original poster asked was what kind of value they could expect if they sold the page. The price a dealer would put on a page and carry from show to show for years isn't a real data point. If they want to sell, certainly no dealer is going to give them the numbers you've suggested, right?
If the page is consigned to an auction - to the original poster that's what I would strongly suggest - we'll find out what the market thinks.
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Sky Masters was simply lightning in a bottle. The strip was written by two brothers, Dave and Richard Wood (they are the "Wood" of Kirby and Wood credited on the strip) and penciled by Jack Kirby with inks initially by the amazing Wally Wood. The comic strip was a "quasi-realistic" space adventure that was a little before it's time.
The space race was just beginning and Sky Masters was gone before the Russians got Yuri Gagarin into orbit. Although promising at the start, Kirby had agreed to pay a portion of his royalties to someone else. He tried to fight that arrangement, but lost in court. Shortly before that decision, Wally left, presumably for more money. Kirby inked himself for a while, and then had Richard Ayers take over the inking chores. But, by then his heart wasn't in the strip and by February of 1961 it was over.
I suppose we should be happy about that because if it was successful, Kirby would have had no reason to find himself back in comics to help start the Marvel Universe.
Still, when they were cooking, they were cooking. This is a one panel strip from very early in the run. As a friend told me, there are other Sky Masters out there, but none better.
The link: https://cafurl.com?i=29640
As always, feel free to look around.
Ron
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The Cartoon Art Museum is auctioning off Dave Stevens/Rocketeer tribute pieces on eBay.
"The Cartoon Art Museum, in cooperation with The Rocketeer Trust, announces an all-star tribute to Dave Stevens and The Rocketeer, the Museum's latest original art auction fundraiser. Original artwork created for this auction will be exhibited at the Cartoon Art Museum this spring and will be featured in an exhibition catalog. We already have an impressive list of creators lined up, and as the pieces come in they will be posted here, and at our Cartoon Art Museum page on CAF. Twenty percent of the auction proceeds will go to the Hairy Cell Leukemia Foundation in honor of Dave Stevens. Dave's sister has graciously given us permission to do this show/auction."
I just picked up the Harry Bliss tribute piece.
More elections on going!! Take a look. Neat art - great cause!!
Ron
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I just picked up the Harry Bliss tribute piece.
More elections on going!! Take a look. Neat art - great cause!!
Ron
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Thanks for sharing!!
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I don't attend enough of these events, but what's the difference between a dealer posting a high price and the piece sitting for a while, and something not selling on a show because it's priced too high? Where is the bait and switch? Is Nick's show an auction show with no reserve? Sorry for the question if it's obvious.
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This.
On 3/31/2023 at 2:17 PM, Rob Frey said:i disagree with that. these pieces have been live now for quite a bit of time for the world to see....... probably 99% of us on these boards and who will watch the auction know exactly what it is we are looking at or bidding on. do you really think that the auctioneer is going to offer us some words of wisdom that is going to change our minds on whether we bid or not ? i don't think so., and she is not my sister or wife.
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On 3/31/2023 at 11:49 AM, batman_fan said:
I bought that Sunday from an oddball auction house not know for Schulz work. Remember, I am a bottle feeder.
I'm thinking you meant "bottom" but no judgment here....
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I don't know that the market for books is a leading indicator of the art market.
On 3/30/2023 at 1:29 PM, Xatari said:I really do think it was right books, wrong pages this auction. The Zeck Kraven and Sandman 1 pages being notable exceptions.
The good news is, books overall were strong which is often a leading indicator of the art market.
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On 2/12/2023 at 7:17 PM, artdealer said:
I used to own this about 47 years ago.
Can’t bring myself to tell what I paid for it.
Something I never should have sold.I believe the one in the auction is a reproduction.
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On 1/31/2023 at 12:11 PM, jjonahjameson11 said:
Sal has worked on Just about every key Marvel title during his long tenure with the Company.
So, love him or hate him, when you think of Sal Buscema do you associate his work with a particular character or title or storyline? To me, nothing really jumps out from a storyline perspective or character/title.
he was just…there.
For whatever it's worth, Sal's Hulk is my Hulk. He was on the title forever and he is a solid storyteller.
I'm not in the deity crowd, but I associate him with the Hulk, and I'm not sure if anyone had a longer run on that character.
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A little late, but a talent gone much too soon.
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“Sgt. Fury and the Howling Commandos” was a key part of the early Marvel line up. It was essentially a World War II book, and as a result, not really initially tied into the Marvel Universe. That all changed with issue #13.
In issue #13, we were treated to a story showing how Nick Fury met Captain America and Bucky, “Fighting side by side with Captain America and Bucky!” In this issue, probably the only one in twice up size that has Bucky in costume, we’re shown a newsreel announcing their meeting and jump into the story from there. This comic was released in October of 1964, 9 months after Cap’s re-emergence in issue #4 of The Avengers. This page has Cap and Bucky taking on some Nazis – from a wonderful time in the beginning of the Marvel Universe, a nice example of the King at work.
The link: https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1861296
Ron
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For what it's worth (and that may not be much), I'm not sure I see how adding another 10 or however many different message boards automatically helps new collectors. If anything, communication about the hobby becomes more fragmented and it's easier for newer collectors to fall into a smaller group where they get preyed upon.
I would encourage (as I often do as I welcome) new collectors to join as many different avenues for communication as they can. In that way, they can learn about the hobby before they start plowing too much money on "this can only go up" or "this is an amazing deal" schemes.
Ron
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Are OA prices out of control?
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I think everyone has a different way to look at things. I don't look at it this way, and I wouldn't encourage others, especially new collectors, to either. Under the "don't yuk my yum" theory, I think I'll just say that chasing artwork that others want can be a interesting hobby, but too many new collectors chase what they think will go up in value. When, in truth, most of them really want a piece of nostalgia and as Brian pointed out there's a lot out there at a reasonable cost if you're willing to put the time in.
I'm not suggesting that potential resale should be ignored. But, this graph appears to put that on the same level as what you like. Not everything is always going to go up. But, most things don't go to zero either. There is a lot of artwork from all ages out there and most of it won't break the bank.
If your life will only be full of joy with a twice up Kirby cover, then you're going to spend some money. But, if that's true, you don't really care what others want anyway.
Just a different perspective.
Ron