ChasingKingKirby

Totally Agree.

Hah! Not hardly, I just figured I'd switch it up a little. I do own other stuff. Though not the warehouse full that you do.

I've got a pretty nice copy of this one raw.

Bingo Great problem to have. My FF1 looks similar. Congrats!

Ok.... Where is the .5 coming from? Looking a full grade undergraded to me...

This. +1

I haven't heard a peep I don't really expect to I think CGC will address this in public, not via PM with you. CGC is in discussions with the buyer I don't understand why they aren't in discussions with YOU. You're the guy that got hosed... No, he didn't. He played the game and lost this particular round. Harsh? Maybe. But it is still reality. How many rounds has he "won" based on CGC's services? I'm guessing a lot more than he's lost given that he is going to continue with this particular business model even after this loss. I don't understand that rationale. He buys a book, pays for a service and hopes for a grade uptick, which is subjective. Restoration detection is NOT subjective. It's either restored or it's not. Isn't there something wrong with that? He IS paying for their service.

I haven't heard a peep I don't really expect to I think CGC will address this in public, not via PM with you. CGC is in discussions with the buyer I don't understand why they aren't in discussions with YOU. You're the guy that got hosed... They already came to an agreement with him. (thumbs u So it makes sense to be dealing with the new buyer. I suspect they will offer to replace the book with another book for the buyer. To get the book off the market. I highly doubt they will offer to buy it. Just my hunch. I doubt they made Dan whole for a JIM 83 6.0. But maybe...

I haven't heard a peep I don't really expect to I think CGC will address this in public, not via PM with you. CGC is in discussions with the buyer I don't understand why they aren't in discussions with YOU. You're the guy that got hosed... An attempt o get the book returned for "correction or re-evaluation", obviously. They've already done that, remember? "Everyone" agreed that it was trimmed... Until it wasn't...

I haven't heard a peep I don't really expect to I think CGC will address this in public, not via PM with you. CGC is in discussions with the buyer I don't understand why they aren't in discussions with YOU. You're the guy that got hosed...

Yes.

Sort of. Yes you know the history. You get a book that has been a blue and now is a purple, who would resub it? I wouldn't, you wouldn't. Nobody who buys big books like this would resub so quickly. It wouldn't happen. And contact the seller again? Why? It's just going to cause problems like this. Especially because the resubber was doing this for monetary gain, not curiosity. You don't sub big books for curiosity. So your 1,2, and 3 are not normal. Not saying it's the op but or the seller, but the op needs to address these concerns so we can have a better picture. I would resub. 3% FMV grading fee on a plod jim 83 7.0 is about $100 versus a potential doubling in price from 2800k for a plod to nearly 6k for a universal. So it would be worth the risk for me. Especially if i knew it had been a universal before... I would have to. I'm perplexed why there's any implication that the buyer did something wrong.

Hmmm Magneto and Prof X vs the all new all diff Cockrum/Clairmont Xmen... Not denying what Cockrum/Clairmont did to the X-Men wasn't fantastic, but they don't have the building blocks without Professor X and Magneto. Plus Magneto is one of the best Marvel Villains (I am entirely biased here). I agree. Perhaps if GSX1 introduced Wolverine then it would be bigger than Xmen 1, but it didnt... We really only get Storm, Warpath, Colossus and Nightcrawler. That isn't bigger than jean grey, cyclops, iceman, beast, magneto, angel and professor X. I think your biased because that Kirby fella had something to do w Xmen #1 But.... I still think the power of GSX 1 was the "synergy" of the new Xmen team. This was the rebirth-Boost of Hero genre. I know Star Wars was huge for Marvel, but Conan and Monster mags were not going to keep the lights on beyond the 70s. Im baffled how this could even be an argument... do a little experiment here and simply ask yourself or x-fans the following; would you rather have a sharp looking cgc 6.0-8.0 X-men #1 or a cgc 9.6-9.8 GSX#1..?? Literally every X-fan Ive ever asked immediately says X-men #1.. -nuff said Be baffled - I would take GSX in 9.8 over Xmen1 in Fine range. It is a good thing we all have different favorites else some comics would be worthless and others so expensive no one could afford them : ) This is true. Different strokes for different folks. :thumbsup: I personally prefer X-men 1 if doing an apples to apples comparison value-wise. An X1 in 6.0 is equal to a GS1 in 9.8. In that instance it comes down to visual appeal for me. I'd take a gorgeous 9.8 over a fugly 6.0. (Of course I'd then sell it and buy a visually appealing X1. ) Well if they are the same value then that means the market demand implies I am not alone in my thinking. Also FWIW, the way I answered the ques was not taking value into account such that I would "sell" it. If someone offered me one or other and arrangement was that I cannot sell it, i could only return it, I would want the GSX 1. I really like that era of Xmen...art, stories, all the way up to the late 80s. yeah, Kirby is greatness, but the orig xmen is prob least favorite SA key next to Spiderman... yeah, I just never got into spidey like other folks, but I did try... bought new/back issues off and on for 10yrs. Even had AF 15. I think what really killed spidey for me was Secret Wars 8... just down hill from there. That is a unique view for sure. Most people would refer to the disastrous clone saga as the thing that destroyed Spidey in the eyes of mainstrream fans. Secret Wars 8 was awesome in my opinion. Gave us the precursor to the most popular villain of the last 30 years. And I can't answer any "would you rather have X or Y?" question without taking value into consideration. Sure I like X1 better than GSX1, but I'm not stupid. Whenver were talking about 1000s of dollars, return on investment has to be a concern. At least in the part of the pond I'm swimming in...

Hmmm Magneto and Prof X vs the all new all diff Cockrum/Clairmont Xmen... Not denying what Cockrum/Clairmont did to the X-Men wasn't fantastic, but they don't have the building blocks without Professor X and Magneto. Plus Magneto is one of the best Marvel Villains (I am entirely biased here). I agree. Perhaps if GSX1 introduced Wolverine then it would be bigger than Xmen 1, but it didnt... We really only get Storm, Warpath, Colossus and Nightcrawler. That isn't bigger than jean grey, cyclops, iceman, beast, magneto, angel and professor X. I think your biased because that Kirby fella had something to do w Xmen #1 But.... I still think the power of GSX 1 was the "synergy" of the new Xmen team. This was the rebirth-Boost of Hero genre. I know Star Wars was huge for Marvel, but Conan and Monster mags were not going to keep the lights on beyond the 70s. Im baffled how this could even be an argument... do a little experiment here and simply ask yourself or x-fans the following; would you rather have a sharp looking cgc 6.0-8.0 X-men #1 or a cgc 9.6-9.8 GSX#1..?? Literally every X-fan Ive ever asked immediately says X-men #1.. -nuff said Be baffled - I would take GSX in 9.8 over Xmen1 in Fine range. It is a good thing we all have different favorites else some comics would be worthless and others so expensive no one could afford them : ) This is true. Different strokes for different folks. :thumbsup: I personally prefer X-men 1 if doing an apples to apples comparison value-wise. An X1 in 6.0 is equal to a GS1 in 9.8. In that instance it comes down to visual appeal for me. I'd take a gorgeous 9.8 over a fugly 6.0. (Of course I'd then sell it and buy a visually appealing X1. )

Tell him to get in line behind Stilt-Man. At least you didn't say Rocket Racer or Big Wheel...

Wow, you consider all of these to be more important/impactful to the Silver Age than ASM #1??? Yeah, that's a bold statement. I can't see Avengers 1 as having more of an impact as Spidey 1. Which brought us the Bugle, JJJ, The Chameleon and Spidey in his own title. All the others there can be an argument for I guess. But that's just my opinion.

Yeah, I agree with that. As a matter of fact, did Goblin EVER cross-over in the silver age? I can't recall any other titles he appeared in.

Yes. I think it was just a general discussion about the importance of X-men 1.

Hmmm Magneto and Prof X vs the all new all diff Cockrum/Clairmont Xmen... Not denying what Cockrum/Clairmont did to the X-Men wasn't fantastic, but they don't have the building blocks without Professor X and Magneto. Plus Magneto is one of the best Marvel Villains (I am entirely biased here). I agree. Perhaps if GSX1 introduced Wolverine then it would be bigger than Xmen 1, but it didnt... We really only get Storm, Warpath, Colossus and Nightcrawler. That isn't bigger than jean grey, cyclops, iceman, beast, magneto, angel and professor X. I think your biased because that Kirby fella had something to do w Xmen #1 But.... I still think the power of GSX 1 was the "synergy" of the new Xmen team. This was the rebirth-Boost of Hero genre. I know Star Wars was huge for Marvel, but Conan and Monster mags were not going to keep the lights on beyond the 70s. Not at all. Kirby was the man, but I appreciate the "new" guys too. I just think the breadth of characters introduced in X1 is bigger and better than those introduced in GSX1. I agree the xmen didn't gain wide acclaim until GS1 but that doesn't change the significance of the two issues.

Hmmm Magneto and Prof X vs the all new all diff Cockrum/Clairmont Xmen... Not denying what Cockrum/Clairmont did to the X-Men wasn't fantastic, but they don't have the building blocks without Professor X and Magneto. Plus Magneto is one of the best Marvel Villains (I am entirely biased here). I agree. Perhaps if GSX1 introduced Wolverine then it would be bigger than Xmen 1, but it didnt... We really only get Storm, Warpath, Colossus and Nightcrawler. That isn't bigger than jean grey, cyclops, iceman, beast, magneto, angel and professor X.

Is that copy trimmed? It looks amazing, but I dunno if it's the photo or what, but it looks "off".

Sorry, that would be mine. (HOM 174).

Yeah, I'm in this club.

1. Detective Comics #27 2 Captain America Comics #1, 3. Batman #1 4. Action Comics #1 5. Superman #1 6. Marvel Comics 1 7. Whiz Comics #2 (#1) 8. More Fun 52 9. Detective Comics #31 10. Green Lantern 1 (I've always loved the black cover with the lantern.)

That's not even close to realistic. That's 6.5 money.