G.A.tor

I've never seen a mod or ext restored book be unrestored to blue... slight, yes, but not sure I know of any examples of mod/ext

it's not, that I know of...

The story of the year is the grade bumping of major keys....both in terms of actual grade and amount of restoration. The rise in price from 155K to 595K on the restored DT 27 is greed fueled. What can stop this....what has ever stopped making a profit. It is very important that this record breaking comic book not be a "grade bump" book.... Mitch, grades can change simply because CGC sees a book differently. Nothing necessarily needs to be done to a book. What is happening is these books are all vying for position (best, 2nd best, 3rd best, etc). Eventually they will settle into their respective positions. Interesting business model....change the standards every 5 years and regrade and regrade . Right now its grade bumping 1 grade and possible 1.2 grades higher. What happens when it it two grades higher....buying at the top is dangerous to say the least. But VC when know what is done to comics today to restore or unrepair to grade bump. Vying for a position does not mean what is occurring is a good and healthy thing. Mitch where have you been the last 10 years? Maybe if you participated in a few threads outside of Action #1's you would have noticed that people have been talking about this since day one. At no time has anybody made 2million on a grade bump/ press or whatever. So the book bumped 100 bucks ten years ago... But this trend is deeper, more profitable... And it is just beginning with ga mega keys....the new saying ..."crack and press"...and make 2+ million profit on a single book....it is coming big time. I think we saw a near unique opportunity with the action 1. It was a beautiful book initially graded with a couple of removable flaws. Flaws that these days most remove before submitting for grading, thus eliminating the potential for upgrades. Will folks continue to try to manipulate books into higher slabs, of course. It's human nature. Folks have been trying to improve books for profit as long as even you have been collecting Mitch (restoration was once widely positively accepted as increasing a books value) However I'm pretty reluctant to think we will ever hear of a 2mil bump on a comic again, it is just not statistically probable. Let's look at the 9.4 bump on the D27 from 9.2....was 155K now 595K... if that bump is even greater even more dollars up. I see in todays Hollywood Reporter an article as to WHY Metro paid over 3.2 million dollars for the Action One...give it read...interesting...here I will sum it up for you....i "it is gonna be worth more".... If you own a GA Key....and can grade bump it .2,.4. or a full grade...what are you gonna do...Gator the 2 million dollar profit Gold Rush( see Chuck R market comments)..has just began..just too much greed and money on the table NOW. mitch, here's my rebuttal...first, greed and money on the table is nothing new...been happening for the past 10 years since the advent of cgc, and happened the previous 30 years to that (just on a diff scale)... second, the tec you bring up did change in grade, but until someone actually buys it, it has not changed in value...I can "ask" anything I want for a book ,but ask yourself, do you think a 9.4 mod Tec 27 is worth 595K? (don't even consider what it was before, just what it is now)...we've never seen a restored Key even sniff 200K, have we? so don't panic just yet...

Sounds like his "few months" was longer than expected. I'm a fan of the book, just not the price (though I guess it's not "that" bad")

The story of the year is the grade bumping of major keys....both in terms of actual grade and amount of restoration. The rise in price from 155K to 595K on the restored DT 27 is greed fueled. What can stop this....what has ever stopped making a profit. It is very important that this record breaking comic book not be a "grade bump" book.... Mitch, grades can change simply because CGC sees a book differently. Nothing necessarily needs to be done to a book. What is happening is these books are all vying for position (best, 2nd best, 3rd best, etc). Eventually they will settle into their respective positions. Interesting business model....change the standards every 5 years and regrade and regrade . Right now its grade bumping 1 grade and possible 1.2 grades higher. What happens when it it two grades higher....buying at the top is dangerous to say the least. But VC when know what is done to comics today to restore or unrepair to grade bump. Vying for a position does not mean what is occurring is a good and healthy thing. Mitch where have you been the last 10 years? Maybe if you participated in a few threads outside of Action #1's you would have noticed that people have been talking about this since day one. At no time has anybody made 2million on a grade bump/ press or whatever. So the book bumped 100 bucks ten years ago... But this trend is deeper, more profitable... And it is just beginning with ga mega keys....the new saying ..."crack and press"...and make 2+ million profit on a single book....it is coming big time. I think we saw a near unique opportunity with the action 1. It was a beautiful book initially graded with a couple of removable flaws. Flaws that these days most remove before submitting for grading, thus eliminating the potential for upgrades. Will folks continue to try to manipulate books into higher slabs, of course. It's human nature. Folks have been trying to improve books for profit as long as even you have been collecting Mitch (restoration was once widely positively accepted as increasing a books value) However I'm pretty reluctant to think we will ever hear of a 2mil bump on a comic again, it is just not statistically probable.

not sure how I missed. Gators will finish second in the sec east. Georgia will edge/Gurley them out West has 4 teams likely better so I see gators finishing 6th at worse.

As long as the check clears hehe

I've been fortunate not to have any qc issues. That said no company is perfect. However multiple mistakes seems unacceptable. Contact cs and request some attention to your issues

0-me .1-myself 1-new force 2-past present and future 3-tates 4-David Alexander 5-George Alfonso 6-coliseum of comics 7-yancy street 8-ed savitt 9-Greg white 10-emerald coast Honerable mention -pikes (maybe higher next year ) Mark Haspel would be on my list but not sure of his dealer stAtus at the moment. How did I arrive at my list you ask? First 10 that popped into my head

As I said earlier in the thread, it sure seems that Gator knows all but can't speak plainly due to confidentiality concerns (either contractual or personal). So you're saying Gator owns the book, it used to be a 2.5, and he's going to sell it at a swap meet? i wish, wow, good idea

I sold it to carbonaro so it was he who had it on display. And at sdcc too...and heroes con. Which book are we talking about? the restored 9.4 that was a restored 9.2 It was at Carbonaro's booth. Here is my iPhone pic. And a fairly lousy but still mostly legible blow-up of the label. Rick, did you ever see the Kane auto on the first page? I bought the book slabbed. It had been a 9.0 ep before I bought as a 9.2 ep

ok, ok, you have point there. A 9.0 Tec vs a 9.0 Action, Action wins. A 9.2 Tec vs a 9.0 Action........Tec could take it. Especially since the "dentist" copy with all it's legend and mystic could be the best copy of Action, and it has not(will not?) come to market. This maybe the best Tec out there. Again, not the best (dentist owns Allentown. 9.4/9.6)

I'm just vaguely participating in this thread like everyone else. I don't own the book so can't make any specific comments outside I would LOVE to own this book

anything about what

I sold it to carbonaro so it was he who had it on display. And at sdcc too...and heroes con. Since these two showed up at the same time... could the 9.2 be his too? No

I am not sure how the existing 8.0 could be manipulated to a 9.2. So I would hazard a guess that "no" is the obvious answer Also heritage still has their 8.0 available on their site. The other 8.0 I've not seen but it is still on census , so more "evidence" this is a newly graded copy

I sold it to carbonaro so it was he who had it on display. And at sdcc too...and heroes con. Which book are we talking about? the restored 9.4 that was a restored 9.2 My bad - I should have quoted the post I was referring to... Tim's too busy to read the entire thread and follow the questions

I sold it to carbonaro so it was he who had it on display. And at sdcc too...and heroes con. Which book are we talking about? the restored 9.4 that was a restored 9.2

I sold it to carbonaro so it was he who had it on display. And at sdcc too...and heroes con.

I'd estimate around 3.5-3.6 for the Tec 27. my guess is that estimate would be low

My guess is it will take more than the action 1 money to get this copy, assuming this copy is even made available

It was at Chicago last weekend. I took a photo I'll post later on when I get a minute. Awesome ! The restored 9.4 is my old restored 9.2 sold to carbo at New Orleans con this past feb. I've posted it on boards plenty of times So I take it they haven't sent in the old label. I guess not.

It was at Chicago last weekend. I took a photo I'll post later on when I get a minute. Awesome ! The restored 9.4 is my old restored 9.2 sold to carbo at New Orleans con this past feb. I've posted it on boards plenty of times