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And that explains it.

Thank you so much! That would explain the April 1st, 1933 issue.

Hopefully there are some "Shadow Experts" here that can help me understand this... It's my understanding that Street & Smith held a contest in their Detective Story Magazines in 1931 to come up with an image of The Shadow. Based on the December 1931 issue of The Shadow Detective Monthly Magazine, that image came close to what we've all come to know and love and then in March of 1932, the common attributes of the Shadow came together at once on the cover of the Shadow Detective Monthly Magazine. The HC book from Street & Smith, The Living Shadow, which reprinted the April 1931 issue of the Shadow Detective Monthly, is from 1931 as well. Where did that image come from for the cover?!

I just posted this in another thread here on the boards but now I am very, very confused about something that I never thought of before. I think I'll have to start a thread elsewhere to try and find the answer... Sorry about this not being a comic but it was Street & Smith's cross marketing for their Shadow Detective Monthly Magazine that was found in their February 13th, 1932 issue of Love Story Magazine. The image is that of James LaCurto who was the first to voice the narration of The Shadow on the Detective Story Hour radio show in 1930. (Sadly, not my copy...)

Sorry about this not being a comic but it was Street & Smith's cross marketing for their Shadow Detective Monthly Magazine that was found in their February 13th, 1932 issue of Love Story Magazine. The image is that of James LaCurto who was the first to voice the narration of The Shadow on the Detective Story Hour radio show in 1930. (Sadly, not my copy...)

Before I forget, I have to put this awesome video on here that I just stumbled onto a couple of weeks ago featuring some 30 year old interviews with Anthony Tollin. Just seeing some of his collection is wonderful to look at!

CGC has put notations on many books claiming "prototypes" and such. This one here on Challengers of the Unknown #3, though not claiming to be a "prototype issue", is a good example... As far as the Case of the Chemical Syndicate vs. Partners of Peril, I have read that even Bill Finger admitted that he took the story from a Shadow story. Anthony Tollin and Will Murray have spoken about this and there are numerous sources for that. This issue of Alter Ego Magazine #176 July 2022, lightly touches on it. This video here illustrates the similarities... And this one here is a little long, but kind of fun as they explore more of the same. And I often mock Google and our AI in general, but this is what first appears when doing a 2 second "Google search" on the topic...

I'll definitely be interested to see how these turn out for you.

I wrote a bit more on my page about this, but I thought I would take some of those thoughts and post them here too... To say that I'm very impressed with this experience would be an understatement. To start with, I mailed these out with USPS Priority Mail on Monday, March 18th under CGG's High Value tier. I placed one at a value of $500 and the other at a value of $1000. I was very surprised to see that just a few days later, on Friday, March 22nd, they were listed as Received in the system but not only that, they were already moved into the Scheduled for Grading category! Well seven days later, on the 29th of March, they were graded and then ultimately shipped out on Tuesday, April 2nd. The total turn around time from the point of me sending these out on Monday morning, March 18th to me receiving them back on Saturday, April 6th was only 19 total days! The fee for the High Value tier (max value = $1000) is more than double the cost than the Vintage tier (max value = $400) but these were two very important copies to me. The grades I received were right in line with what I was expecting to see based on what I saw from other graded examples on line, so I was happy about that. As far as the holder itself, I like it a lot. ... ... I believe it was in the winter of 2022 when I bought that first Shadow Magazine issue from October 1, 1936 and then some months later when I found the nicer copy. The copy on the left was my very first pulp of The Shadow that I purchased. And then of course I thoroughly documented that purchase of the November 1, 1936 issue that I bought at PulpFest last summer in Pittsburgh. Again, these are the raw images... So when I sent these into CGC, based off of what I was seeing already in graded examples, I was hoping that the October 1, 1936 issue would get somewhere between a 4.0 - 5.0 and that the November 1, 1936 issue would grade out between a 2.0 and a 3.0 based off of the chunk out of the bottom and the staining on the back cover. Like I mentioned in the previous post, I was very impressed with the turnaround time on these and even more pleased with the CGC grades and here they are. These are the actual CGC scanned images and not from my scanner... Again, I really like the quality of the slabs and they are very thick... they did a great job of making the side nice and clear so you can easily see the spine. I'll try a little later to get a picture or a scan of the spines to be able to better show that. In general, they're about twice as thick as a normal comic slab. One thing I didn't realize until I was putting these books together to submit them was that both of these issues have the punched hole in the upper left corner. I'm not sure if that was done back then to designate copies as 'remainders',as was done with comics where they would have the top third of the covers ripped off to submit back to the distributors for credit, or rather some other designation. Regardless, I'm very, very happy with these and as of right now, the October 1, 1936 (#111) issue is the lone copy on the census, while the November 1, 1936 (#113) issue is the second highest graded with another sitting at a nice 4.5! ... ... My only true disappointment though is that there was no notation on the issue #113 (Nov.1, 1936) of Detective Comics #27. That would have been the ultimate icing on the cake!

I believe it was in the winter of 2022 when I bought that first Shadow Magazine issue from October 1, 1936 and then some months later when I found the nicer copy. The copy on the left was my very first pulp of The Shadow that I purchased. And then of course I thoroughly documented that purchase of the November 1, 1936 issue that I bought at PulpFest last summer in Pittsburgh. Again, these are the raw images... So when I sent these into CGC, based off of what I was seeing already in graded examples, I was hoping that the October 1, 1936 issue would get somewhere between a 4.0 - 5.0 and that the November 1, 1936 issue would grade out between a 2.0 and a 3.0 based off of the chunk out of the bottom and the staining on the back cover. Like I mentioned in the previous post, I was very impressed with the turnaround time on these and even more pleased with the CGC grades and here they are. These are the actual CGC scanned images and not from my scanner... Again, I really like the quality of the slabs and they are very thick... they did a great job of making the side nice and clear so you can easily see the spine. I'll try a little later to get a picture or a scan of the spines to be able to better show that. In general, they're about twice as thick as a normal comic slab. One thing I didn't realize until I was putting these books together to submit them was that both of these issues have the punched hole in the upper left corner. I'm not sure if that was done back then to designate copies as 'remainders',as was done with comics where they would have the top third of the covers ripped off to submit back to the distributors for credit, or rather some other designation. Regardless, I'm very, very happy with these and as of right now, the October 1, 1936 (#111) issue is the lone copy on the census, while the November 1, 1936 (#113) issue is the second highest graded with another sitting at a nice 4.5! ... ... My only true disappointment though is that there was no notation on the issue #113 (Nov.1, 1936) of Detective Comics #27. That would have been the ultimate icing on the cake!

I only have a handful of Pulps that I would want to get graded so I went through around seven or eight and pulled out two. Once I had heard that CGC was looking at grading these, I immediately knew what my first one would be, which is a copy I talked about here, but what should I send in with that one? It took me a little while to decide but ultimately, I chose the one that kind of opened the door to a whole new reality for me. So yes, the obvious first choice was that Shadow Magazine, November 1, 1936 issue featuring the (now hopefully) infamous story, 'Partners in Peril'. The second book I chose to send in, was I guess the bookend to that November 1, 1936 issue... that being the October 1, 1936 issue which featured that amazing cover George Rozen cover that I felt must have had a huge impact on Bill Finger and Bob Kane. As a side note, I just found out that Alex Ross did an homage to that cover. The funny thing is, I think it was last spring or summer that I told Rob that I had this great idea for a move script about the life of Walter B. Gibson and the character development of The Shadow... in passing, I thought it would be cool to cast Alex Ross as both Jerome and George Rozen.

I think I just wanted to watch videos the other night... Anyways, I mentioned that I would hopefully have an update on a couple of Pulps that I sent in to CGC and I was thrilled to get those back yesterday. To say that I'm very impressed with this experience would be an understatement. To start with, I mailed these out with USPS Priority Mail on Monday, March 18th under CGG's High Value tier. I placed one at a value of $500 and the other at a value of $1000. I was very surprised to see that just a few days later, on Friday, March 22nd, they were listed as Received in the system but not only that, they were already moved into the Scheduled for Grading category! Well seven days later, on the 29th of March, they were graded and then ultimately shipped out on Tuesday, April 2nd. The total turn around time from the point of me sending these out on Monday morning, March 18th to me receiving them back on Saturday, April 6th was only 19 total days! The fee for the High Value tier (max value = $1000) is more than double the cost than the Vintage tier (max value = $400) but these were two very important copies to me. The grades I received were right in line with what I was expecting to see based on what I saw from other graded examples on line, so I was happy about that. As far as the holder itself, I like it a lot. They're very thick as you can imagine and seem pretty substantial. I'll post some pictures here soon but first I have to talk about what I ultimately sent in.

... Of course Don Johnson inspired my look and dress of the middle to late 80's but Philip Michael Thomas was so integral to the series. I can't believe he's 74 now! Mid week edit - I'm not sure why, but I've been kind of stuck on Genesis and Phil Collins for a few weeks now. I'm not sure what exactly sparked that except for maybe recently seeing and hearing about Phil Collins' medical condition.

How did I end up here tonight? Who do you choose as your partner... Crockett or Tubbs? ''

And another favorite of mine...

I'm not sure what it is about these two songs, back to back, but I really like them.

I just saw a current picture of Phil Collins this evening... oh my.

This is just an amazing 80'S tune... This whole sound track!

This is such a sad thread from start to end. I only knew of Ed through his name and attributes... I only heard of these accusations form here, on the CGC forum, sadly. I went back and listened to the videos both against Ed and in support of Ed on YouTube... seemingly our now, God All Mighty, AI resource for news. (Yes, a dash of sarcasm here.) To me, Ed sounded like all of us. Flawed. I'm not sure what exactly happened here but from an outsider point of view, it seems like Judgement isn't any or our fortitude, nor should it be. Rest in Peace, Ed Piskor.

I just found a copy of that last year. One of my favorites.

Thank you - that makes sense.

Is there a different way to access the Pulp census or do you use the same search field as with comics? I'm not having any luck so far.

To be continued...

It took a few phone calls but I was ultimately able to secure the book for $100. We had to drive back out there a week later to pick it up but it was so worth it to me. When I went to pick it up, the bookshop owner told me that he had glued the spine as it was loose prior to my purchase. To me, this was a bonus as that was exactly what I was planning to do with this copy. After this one purchase, however, I now felt the need to secure the entire 3 volume set... of course, right? And so I did. I found the second and third book at a discounted price on Mycomicshop.com and was very happy with that... I was now set with the whole 3 volume set of Shadow books by Street & Smith.