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    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    Why do I have a feeling I know exactly what the fans will say?

    :facepalm:

     

    Fox Asking Fans What To Do With 'Fantastic Four' Franchise

    http://peeltheorange.net/fox-asking-fans-what-to-do-with-fantastic-four-franchise/

     

    Yeah,make a DREDD 2 :insane:

     

    I mean sell the film rights back to Marvel :sumo:

    Dredd 2 would be awesome if the same creative team were somehow still involved too.

    I did a House of Corrections interview and I swear they wanted guards like Karl Urban's character. Here I am on Facebook taking care of baby raccoons. I didn't stand a chance to look tough after a quick background check. lol

    "Sorry Jerel, you're way too nice"

    Karl Urban is my hero. It must have been such a hard balance for that character to not look like a complete jerk on screen. But there he was, evolving his character arc (with subtle body movement) under a helmet during the whole movie!

    I know it bombed with the power of a thousand suns, :cry::pullhair: BuuuuuT! It makes my heart grow 3 times it's size to know DREDD kicked the F4's among both critics and audiences.

    Just look at the differance.

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd/

     

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four_2015/

     

     

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    The 13th Warrior is just an amazing film.

     

    I usually don't like deconstructed myths, but this one is so well done, as is the novel by Crichton.

    I need to see this now. hm

    Nope you need to see the Fantastic Four (2015) first instead of continually bashing on a film you have never seen.

    You gonna pay for my ticket? :baiting:

     

    I will....if you go see it and totally hate it, I will PayPal you $10 to offset your ticket. That's how much I believe that this movie doesn't suck. I'm not even an FF guy.

     

    Jim

    We're checking the times for the remaining earliest showings for today.

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    I did notice something interesting on Rotten Tomatoes. Although it only has a 9% rating from the critics, 28 % of the people who saw it, liked it.

     

    I often find I like movies that have those kinds of ratings. I'm not looking for Citizen Kane from these guys, just something entertaining.

     

    Audiences aren't as discerning as critics, to be sure, but that is still awfully, awfully low for an audience rating. If the audience isn't at least fifty to sixty percent, I can guarantee I will hate a movie.

    Just Compare the audience rating between F4 and Transformers 4!

     

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four_2015/

     

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_age_of_extinction/

     

    :o

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    The 13th Warrior is just an amazing film.

     

    I usually don't like deconstructed myths, but this one is so well done, as is the novel by Crichton.

    I need to see this now. hm

    Nope you need to see the Fantastic Four (2015) first instead of continually bashing on a film you have never seen.

    You gonna pay for my ticket? :baiting:

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    So, opening weekend predictions?

    I say it has an opening weekend between 24-36 million. With a 40 to 60 percent drop off the next week.

    I say $40-45 million opening weekend.

     

    + 1

     

    BOO-YAH! Looks like I was spot on with my prediction! :acclaim:

     

    Is it Sunday already? I need to get ready for a business trip.

     

    :ohnoez:

    Estimates don't look good, buddy. :baiting:

     

    http://pro.boxoffice.com

    Wow! Revised estimates say this won't even clear 30 million.

    Talk about an epic disaster.

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    Some very interesting updates on the Trank turning on his own picture story.

    http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

     

    Even though major reshoots were undertaken to create a more action-oriented conclusion, the pair denied rumors that Trank had been effectively dismissed from Fantastic Four while Kinberg and the studio retooled the climax. Trank also insisted this rumored discord didn’t lead to Lucasfilm dropping him from a planned Star Wars stand-alone film, which sources say was centered on a -script about Boba Fett — written by Kinberg.

     

    “I want to do something original after this because I’ve been living under public scrutiny, as you’ve seen, for the last four years of my life,” Trank told the Los Angeles Times. “And it’s not healthy for me right now in my life. I want to do something that’s below the radar.”

     

    Those remarks were already being met with skepticism.

     

    UPDATE #1: Sources close to those films say, without question, Trank was fired from the movie after Lucasfilm executives investigated rumors of his behavior on set and feared he would be too chaotic to trust with one of the stand-alone movies.

     

    Trank’s tweet as Fantastic Four hits theaters unraveled the entire facade. Based on his own words, we now know that Trank had been removed from the film, was not happy with the final cut, and he wanted the world to understand that the movie being demolished by critics was not the one he wanted to make.

     

    That reshot climax, by the way, is the main thing singled out in many reviews for being out of sync with the rest of the film and the character development that came before. So… that leads to another question:

     

    What did Josh Trank do?

     

    It’s the same five words, but they have a different meaning now: What was Trank’s contribution to this film? What was his original vision? And would that version of Fantastic Four have been better received by critics? Right now, we don’t know how moviegoers will respond — although we’ll have an answer by Monday.

     

    Keep in mind, Steven Spielberg was nearly fired from Jaws. Francis Ford Coppola faced the same threat on The Godfather. No one is claiming Trank is at that talent level, and he definitely didn’t survive the way they did. But it’s possible to be a great storyteller, crafting an ambitious film, and still run afoul of a studio — which may value quality and innovation, sure, but more often prefers budgetary discipline and adherence to a proven formula.

     

    This is why filmmakers with distinct vision, like Shaun of the Dead’s Edgar Wright and Selma’s Ava DuVernay, choose to step away from expensive, studio-tentpole comic-book movies before having to endure the inevitable compromises they bring.

     

    UPDATE #2: Since this article was published, several high level sources close to Fantastic Four – spoken to independently of each other – have told EW the rift on set was not about creative differences but rather destructive and combative behavior Trank demonstrated toward the crew, producers, studio and even the stars. When he was wooed by Fox for Fantastic Four, the movie had no set limits. But as the green-light loomed, Trank was indecisive and repeatedly requested sweeping changes that caused studio confidence to plummet. During photography, Trank’s personal disputes – like extreme, perhaps deliberate damage done to the house he was renting – eventually manifested on set as hostility and frustration toward the cast and crew.

     

    There’s a reason Trank’s tweet has caused such an uproar and raised so many questions. Until now, everyone involved in Fantastic Four has been so busy denying there was any disruption or chaos on set or between the filmmaking team that Trank’s burst of truth and despair is difficult to interpret – even by those who have been trying to follow the developments on the film closely. Is this merely more evidence of the erratic behavior those who worked on the movie have discussed anonymously in the press?

     

    Or… let’s give Trank the benefit of the doubt, just for a moment. Might Trank actually be the injured party here? That’s what was suggested by Max Landis, the screenwriter of Chronicle, who has previously directed sarcasm and scorn Trank’s way when the Star Wars film fell through. Although Landis wasn’t involved in Fantastic Four, he seemed to side with his former director on Thursday night.

     

    To read the whole story just click on the link.

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    WOW! Looks like my B.O. prediction was not far off afterall! :eek:

     

    “Fantastic Four” is struggling to find its footing at the box office this weekend, suggesting that not even superheroes are immune to poor reviews.

     

    Early estimates show the 20th Century Fox release struggling to hit $30 million for the weekend, which is well below the anticipated mid-$40 million mark. Should the estimates keep plummeting, the opening could prove disastrous for the studio, which spent $120 million on the pic. :o

     

     

    http://variety.com/2015/film/box-office/fantastic-four-bombing-at-the-friday-box-office-1201559318/

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    Posted

    Balanced review from a different Forbes critic today, titled "Fantastic Four is flawed but acceptable reboot."

     

    Among other things he indicates he's a comic reader when he notes he's a fan of the classic issues but understands why Fox went with Ultimate FF.

     

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2015/08/07/review-fantastic-four-is-flawed-but-acceptable-reboot/

     

    He also notes that it still could do $90-$100 million domestic + $200-$250 million foreign (and draws similarities to the performance of X-Men: First Class), thus setting up a blockbuster FF sequel (a la X-Men: DOFP).

     

    It sounds like most of this is going to weigh on the Asian markets.

     

    If the Asian markets read online reviews and base their viewing dollars on that, this franchise is doomed. The only hope they have is for them to ignore the online reviews.

    How many in the asian markets even pay attention to the critics enough to make a difference?

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    I just got back and took my 13 year old girl and her best friend. The best friend who doesn't know superheroes at all, thought it was really good and all the way home were trying to come up with superhero names.

     

    I thought it was actually really good. Something I've wanted to see for a long time, an hour and a half origin story, that actually made sense followed by a fifteen minute "big fight" by somebody who actually had reason and motivation to be pizzed off.

     

    I can see why others might not like it, if you want action followed by more action. It was also quite dark too.

     

    Jim

     

    So I just left the theater myself unlike my friends who were pissed Johnny Storm was black and the liberties they could be seen taken just by watching the previews I was excited by the previews.

     

    I would say the problematic reviews for this film is simply this film was not made for critics like the Transformers films. This film was made with a young college to high school audience so must critics will just hate.

     

    The film is essentially a remake of Real Genius with superheroes in it.

    So why not call it Real Genius instead of Fantastic 4? If this was a reboot of real genius it *might* get better reviews, but Fox in their infinite wisdom calls it the Fantastic 4. So of course people/critics/fans are gonna be pissed when they get RG instead of F4.

     

    Oh wait so you want them to follow the same story every time with exact character representations from the comics. Why make a new film if your going to stick to the same -script?

     

    They went with a fresh new take and I liked it. If you have not seen the film yet don't talk until you do.

    You yourself said it was more RG than F4 so why would I want to see Real Genius redux? If you are trying to sell me on this flick you are not doing a great job.

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    I just got back and took my 13 year old girl and her best friend. The best friend who doesn't know superheroes at all, thought it was really good and all the way home were trying to come up with superhero names.

     

    I thought it was actually really good. Something I've wanted to see for a long time, an hour and a half origin story, that actually made sense followed by a fifteen minute "big fight" by somebody who actually had reason and motivation to be pizzed off.

     

    I can see why others might not like it, if you want action followed by more action. It was also quite dark too.

     

    Jim

     

    So I just left the theater myself unlike my friends who were pissed Johnny Storm was black and the liberties they could be seen taken just by watching the previews I was excited by the previews.

     

    I would say the problematic reviews for this film is simply this film was not made for critics like the Transformers films. This film was made with a young college to high school audience so must critics will just hate.

     

    The film is essentially a remake of Real Genius with superheroes in it.

    So why not call it Real Genius instead of Fantastic 4? If this was a reboot of real genius it *might* get better reviews, but Fox in their infinite wisdom calls it the Fantastic 4. So of course people/critics/fans are gonna be pissed when they get RG instead of F4.

     

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    Damn. That didn't take long. Opening night and Trank is already talking smack...

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/fantastic-four-director-swears-hes-021200954.html

    For real? Already trying to distance himself from this before it even opens in all theaters is a hell of a bad sign. I mean shouldn't he wait at least till after the weekend box office numbers are in? I mean it being the american public this abomination could still rake in big box office bucks, unless he knows something we don't.

    Fantastic Four from Fox Studios (8/7/15)

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    I'm dreading going to see this movie this weekend. And I have to do a review on it.

     

    With the movies MI: Rogue Nation (action-2nd week), Shaun the Sheep (kids-opening), and The Gift (thriller-opening) you might be the only one in the theatre. Not only are the bad reviews off-putting, but the FF is up against some strong competition for viewer money.

     

    I agree with others that this can wait until it is streaming on Netflix, or at best Red Box.

    -Terry

     

    Strong competition? Shaun is supposed to do $4MM, The Gift $8MM. MI will be $30MM at best. If the reviews weren't close to Guinness record book awful, this movie had clear sailing this weekend.

    Going to Shaun the sheep this weekend. :popcorn: