seanfingh

Birds of Prey 8

New Mutants and Excalibur were the ultra-ginger stepchildren of the mutant tableau. No one cared about either of them until Liefeld. No one ever cared about Excalibur.

This is the only part of this topic I have trouble believing.... It was only from late 92 through the end of 97.

That was from Coyote Ugly And, yes,

Or you could just suck it, because there is nowhere else to go.

So is my 10/18. But I think the radness of my BattleChasers #1 Holochrome is holding it up. How weird that we would both have the same book at CGC at the same time. I'm just glad I didn't buy it from you at your giggling flipper gouge rates.

So is my 10/18. But I think the radness of my BattleChasers #1 Holochrome is holding it up.

NM 98 was not hot at the time of release, not like 87. There was absolutely no buzz about Deadpool at all. It had more interest because of Domino and the dude with green hair than because of Deadpool. It never got hot until after I was out of comics. People were definitely doing some hoarding at the time, because of Liefeld, but it never had a price spike while I was still actively buying and selling and was much less sought after than 86 and 88.

It has a high print run compared to WD #1, Peter Panzerfaust #1 or even Planetary #1. It had a low print run compared to Jim Lee X-Men 1, TMcF Spider-Man #1 and WDC&S in the 50s. Context is everything.

It is a different vibe, because there are not huge buyups at the wholesale level. That is what busted up the 90's market, Cases and cases of books being hoarded and retailers having to eat books that were pre-ordered with the idea that sales were going to remain high. When the speculators had to eat their cases of Superman 500 and the retailers who couldn't pay their Capital or Diamond bill folded, poof!! The specing on back issues that is going on now is very reminiscent of the specing that was done in the late 80's early 90's - you just switch out "new movie" for "new ongoing series." 1990 - Deathlok gets new series, Astonishing Tales back issues go bananas. 2013 - Antman is getting a movie, Marvel Premiere 47-48 go apespit. It seems more drastic because the stratification of grades and the slabbed comic market makes everything seem so out of control, from a pure price standpoint. But it really is very similar. And it is my belief that specing on back issues will not have as horrible an effect as the speculator bust of the 90's because there are fewer potential losers.

unlike all these other copper books.

That's not really very sad.

This thread is beyond epic. It has calls to CGC, archival review of the PTO database, and carbon dating!!

I don't think that's any more relevant than the copyright date. I mean the lead time for having a golden book published could be significantly longer than the lead time for a comic book...or not. Either way, when the art was drawn wouldn't prove anything. Shhh. These guys are going to unprecedented lengths. Logic may slow them down.

I thought Power Records books were considered comic books? They are listed in my Oversteet Price Guide along with the other comic books. I wasn't aware of a controversy about that. It's interesting. Do others feel the Power Records books are not comic books? CGC considers them comics http://www.cgccomics.com/census/issues_bytitle.asp?title=Power+Record+Comics&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics CGC grades them. That doesn't make them comics. It calls them comics ... I can call you a cotton-headed ninnymuggins. That doesn't make you one.

I thought Power Records books were considered comic books? They are listed in my Oversteet Price Guide along with the other comic books. I wasn't aware of a controversy about that. It's interesting. Do others feel the Power Records books are not comic books? CGC considers them comics http://www.cgccomics.com/census/issues_bytitle.asp?title=Power+Record+Comics&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics CGC grades them. That doesn't make them comics. On that note, nor does it not make them comics. Well, that is certainly true. And realistically, no matter what someone puts up as a reason why it is not a comic book, you can find an example to shoot it down. I just use Justice Stewart's analysis - "I know it when I see it."

I thought Power Records books were considered comic books? They are listed in my Oversteet Price Guide along with the other comic books. I wasn't aware of a controversy about that. It's interesting. Do others feel the Power Records books are not comic books? CGC considers them comics http://www.cgccomics.com/census/issues_bytitle.asp?title=Power+Record+Comics&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics CGC grades them. That doesn't make them comics.

That book is analogous to a Power Records book and record combo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/190881740183?lpid=82 Are they collectible - Yes Are they awesome - Yes Are they comics - No This Harley book may have legs, and I hope it does, but it is not a comic.

Was this comic pressed and torqued? Has the tell tale signs of a comic that was pressed. Nice pick up either way.

It's possible that SDCC 2 is considered his true first app., but DP 4 still sells for way more even today. Have you ever seen a 9.8 of this book? It's rare