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Ok, hopefully, I'm in the right place this time. I was sure I had posted previously in Comics Market - Sales Advertising, Ebay, etc. However, my post was yanked almost immediately, and it appears that I must have inadvertently posted in Marketplace. My sincere apologies... I hate when people don't follow the rules, and it looks like I was inadvertently one of those rule breakers. In any event, I'll have some really fun GA books this Sunday, 11/18/2018, at the New Haven Comic & Collectible Spectacular. Please stop by and say "hi". In the brief moment when the post was up earlier in the week, Peter Park said he'd be there. Any other boardies? If so, please stop by & introduce yourself. It'll be great to meet you. The World's Most Dangerous Comic Books Facebook page

Nope, Overstreet still hasn't acknowledged the existence of MTIO #32 with a 35-cent cover. I have a similar experience. A few times in the past, I've contributed information that they accepted and for which they added my name to the credits at the front of the Guide. However, my experience was very different the last time I tried to submit information. For many years, their listing for Wertham's Seduction of the Innocent had been incorrect. I wrote them with corrections. They took some of my suggestions, but in doing so they revamped the listing in such a way that it's now incorrect in whole new ways. If you fix one fact but change three more to be incorrect, then you're not doing the hobby much good. I wrote them again pointing out the stuff they got wrong, and never heard back. So I gave up.

Great book! Congrats to buyer and seller! Finding a first print with such a nice dust jacket can be a challenge.

A book that's not offered for sale often, from one of the best (or from Wertham's perspective, worst) crime series ever. If I didn't have one, I'd be so all over this.

What's that I see? A variation of a Classics book that was used in SOTI? And it's a variation I've never seen before. I guess that means

Sweet book, and hard to find at any price.

Thanks for your interest, @Ricksneatstuff. I apologize for neglecting to shut this thread down back in 2016. I'm pretty sure that box sold at Bing Con in Springfield, MA back in 2016. I'll check my storage for those books. If I still have 'em, they're yours.

Okay, that does it. After 44 years of comic collecting, I have never had a book pressed. But it's time. I was about to ship some books off to CGC for grading, and decided that quite a number of them really need a press. So I shopped around, read the opinions of those who've been down this road before, and I've come to the conclusion that the right choice for me is @joeypost

That cover has always struck me... Like you said, the eyes, the coloring... HOLY GUACAMOLE! LOOK AT THAT BONE IN THE NECK! I can't believe I had never really noticed it. My eyes are always so drawn to his eyes that I somehow never really focused on the neck.

I didn't make it through the miles-long thread, but I made it through a couple shorter ones. It's a pretty intriguing story. Here's the Cliff's Notes version, minus some of the drama, that I was able to glean from it... - A seller went to Eides and offered them some GA books, including 'Tec 27. Some books were trimmed. The 'Tec 27 had a couple married pages. - Eides turned the seller down, ostensibly because he believed the 27 to be trimmed. - Eides implied at some point that the books originated from known scammer Danny D. That has not been confirmed. - Todd bought the 'Tec 27. - Eides claimed that Todd had been taken, because the book had been trimmed. Todd indicated that he believed the book to be untrimmed. - Drama ensued, and Eides embarrassed himself with accusations that were not publicly proven. - Around the time period of the discovery, somebody slabbed a CGC 6.5 'Tec 27. Many have speculated that it's the same copy in question. To those who slogged through the whole bit and/or are more familiar: Does that pretty much sum it up? Any news since this? I'm curious... did anybody ever get a photo (with serial #) of that 6.5 that was slabbed around that time? Graders' notes would indicate whether it had married pages.

In that case, Millie is mine!

Ooh, an Archie 1-10 + 50 club? Can I join? My 50 is a qualified fair, missing all interior pages and the back cover.

Cool books! Based on the pics and a couple minutes' digging at GCD, I'd say you have a mix of Quality and Timely. It looks like from Timely, you have Wild Western #5 and Tex Taylor #7, plus another book with anti-Wertham editorial #2. Many of the books that contain anti-Wertham editorial #2 are listed here: The Seduction of the Innocent website, chart of anti-Wertham editorials From Quality, it looks like you have Hollywood Secrets #2 and Love Confessions #2. Given that GCD is saying the book is Fawcett reprints, it would seem that somebody out there has one or more copies with Fawcett books. I'm wondering if perhaps this was a distributor, with access to all publishers in an area, who was doing the repackaging for the Canadian market?

Thanks. That one appeals to me for a few reasons. It's co-run by a really good guy I know from the "olden days", it's an actual COMIC show, and it's really convenient to where I am in western Massachusetts. I would have set up there last year, but I had a conflict with the fall show. Hopefully our schedules will work out and I can set up at one of the upcoming shows.

Way back in the dark ages of the 1990's, I used to sell at shows in New England and New York (NYC and Albany) on a regular basis. You know, the "olden days" when hardly anybody dressed up, and most shows were one-day shows. I'm not looking at getting back into it regularly, but I'd like to very occasionally set up at shows again. By very occasionally, I'm thinking perhaps once a year. Last year, I had a blast setting up at the Brass City Comic Con in Waterbury, CT, The year before, I enjoyed Bing Con in Springfield, MA. Sometime this fall or next spring, I'd like to do another show. One constraint is that family time is my top priority, so I'm not willing to do a multi-day event. It can be a Saturday or a Sunday, but not both. I'd love to do a show in Boston, but the ones I have found seem to be multi-day events. I'd be selling GA through Bronze, with a smattering of modern books, but nothing any newer than, say, 1999. Anybody got any recommendations for shows I might want to try? I think I already have my next one picked out, but I'm curious as to whether I'm missing a good one. And while I'm at it, what's the best show for buying GA between NYC and Boston? If I decide to save up a bit and hit one of the bigger, multi-day shows as just a customer, is there one in NYC/Providence/Hartford/Boston that beats the others in terms of the quantity and quality of GA books?

I've bought from them many times. Every time, they met or exceeded my expectations. They even went way above and beyond with a request I had. I recommend them without reservation.

The Overstreet listing for Seduction of the Innocent has had numerous errors for years. The information had been incorrect for some time, so years ago I wrote to them with a slew of corrections. They implemented some of the corrections, but other parts of the entry they "fixed" to add new errors. I opted not to write them back to say "you got this right, but you got so many more things wrong." The listing correctly states that there are two mid-1950's US editions of the book, and that a few copies of the first printing survived with the bibliography intact, but most do not have the bibliography. However, here's what's wrong with the listing: - They list two different dust jackets with two different prices for the first print with bibliography and for the first print without bibliography. However, it's the same jacket, so it seems absurd to me to imply that the price of a standalone dust jacket is different depending on whether it was removed from a "first state" (with bibliography) or "second state" (without bibliography) book. More likely, they intended to list a separate price for the Second Printing dust jacket, but instead listed it in the wrong place and with the wrong description. - They conflated the U.S. Second Printing with the U.K. first printing, by listing some attributes of each in this listing for a book that doesn't actually exist. If they take out the text I listed in purple, and remove the text with the strikethrough, then they'll have a more accurate description of the US Second Printing: "(2nd Version) - Published in England by Rinehart, 1954, 399pgs, has bibliographical page, 'Second print' listed on inside flap of the dust jacket; publication page has no 'R' colophon, unlike 1st version." Neither the US Second Print nor the UK First Print had a bibliography. - If they correct the listing above to make it a listing for the US Second Printing, then they'd need to add a UK First Printing (published by Library Publishers, 1955, 398pp., published with a dust jacket and without the biblopgraphy.) - The 1972 reprint says it's a reprint of the "2nd version". Because the 1972 Kennikat Press reprint had a bibliography, it's more accurate to say it's a reprint of the first printing/first state (which they are calling "1st Version"). Interesting side note: This is the first edition that was intentionally distributed with a bibliography. - The modern printings are listed as having been published in 2004. This isn't wholly accurate. There have been numerous modern printings, many with varying cover colors (blue, green, brown, etc), which seem to have started in 1996 and continue to this day. These are ostensibly "limited editions" of 220 copies, but every time a printing sells out on Amazon, a new batch is published. So the "limited edition" is a rather generous assessment, to say the least. - The date of SOTI is listed as "1953,1954". However, the actual publication date was April, 1954. I understand Overstreet's confusion on this topic, because the copyright date of SOTI is listed as "1953, 1954". This is due to the fact that a preview was published in Ladies' Home Journal in November, 1953. So the preveiw material has a copyright date of 1953, while the remainder of the book was copyrighted in 1954. Given that Overstreet lists publication dates, not copyright dates, the correct publication date for SOTI should be listed as 1954. In addition to the factual errors listed above, there are a couple of what I could call editorial errors.- - I've bought and sold literally dozens of copies of this book over the years, and have seen many, many more for sale. Some have had dust jackets, and most have not. However, I have never seen offered for sale a "dust jacket only" for the book. One could easily make the case that the dust jacket is worth more when it's on a first print/first state (with bibliography) than when it's on a first print/second state (no bibliography). Given that the guide is allgedly based on prices of actual sales of books, the listing should reflect prices of books with the DJ, and books without the DJ. It shouldn't list the dust jacket as a separate entity with a separate sale price, because there's simply not enough data to justify it. - The modern reprints are listed for $115 in NM. That's just plain wrong. Given that it's effectively still in print, and any buyer can pick up a copy on Amazon for less than half that price, the $115 price is made-up nonsense.

Just a quck note of thanks to @entalmighty1@ pontoon, @kav, @lizards2, and many other boardies for the posts about All_Things_Comics. Now that my SOTI collection is complete, I don't buy a lot these days. I know who some of the good guys are, like Ted Van Liew. But I don't typically know who the sellers are that I should be avoiding. This week I was bidding on a bunch of eBay auctions by All_Things_Comics. It's an account with 100% positive feedback on eBay, so what could go wrong? Then I checked the boards and found out I need to be really careful buying from that seller. So then I started thinking, "hmmm. If the seller is known for restored books, but is claiming the books I want are fully unrestored, and I do a thorough resto check when I get the book... what could go wrong?" For just a few moments I considered continuing to bid. Then I caught myself. Even if the books are legit. Even if they really are untrimmed/unrestored... Even if they sell for a seeming bargain price... Even if these sales that seem VERY LIKELY to have problems somehow go off flawlessly.... Do I really want to spend one penny of my money with somebody who has such a reputaton as a scammer? http://comic-book-information.blogspot.com/2012/06/scammer-named-aram-shirinyan.html I don't need any books that badly. Walking away, with "no thank you" to All_Things_Comics and a big thank you to the boards!

Somebody please take away the temptation of PL20!

Shoot. I just spotted that Two-Gun Kid with the Anti-Wertham editorial and was about to pull the trigger... then realized I already have it. If I didn't have it, I'd have been all over it. GLWTS!

That's a great book! I'll dig around and see what else I have.

Great. PM me your zip code and I'll get you a shipping price. Thanks!

My Mustek ScanExpress A3 USB scanner can be yours. No strings attached, but please read the whole description to make sure it's the right scanner for you. I bought this scanner a number of years ago, and it worked great. But it's been many years since I bought and sold original art, so it's been many years since I needed a scanner that can do 11x17 artwork. As a result, the scanner has sat unused for at least a decade. When I tried to get the scanner to work today with my current Windows 8 laptop, I got a message that Windows couldn't find the driver. When I tried to locate a driver online, I had no luck. Since I don't need it anyway, I'm ready to retire this scanner to the junk heap. But before I do that, I thought I'd see if any boardies have a use for it. Original-art sized scanners are pretty pricey, so here's a chance to get one for only the cost of shipping plus the time and aggravation of finding the appropriate driver. This baby is yours for just the cost of USPS shipping (or free with no shipping if you can meet me in Springfield, MA). The scanner's specs are here https://www.cnet.com/products/mustek-scanexpress-a3-usb-flatbed-scanner-series/specs/ And if you're interested, I'll get a box, weigh it, and get you a shipping price. First "take it" in thread gets dibs. A "conditional take it pending shipping cost" is fine. To give you an idea of shipping price, it will probably weigh about 15lbs and be shipped from Zip code 01038. Payment by Paypal is ok, but check preferred to avoid the fees (since I'll be making zero on this). Of course, any questions are welcome. I'll leave this up for a few days and if there are no takers, then the junkman gets it. Thanks for checking out my listing.

I thought at this point that I'd probably be safe. Of course, the seller could prove that I had received SOMETHING. But I hope that if I (with 20 years of good buying and selling feedback) said that the envelope was empty, and the seller (with no selling feedback... Was this a hacked account, maybe?) claimed that the item was in the envelope, then most likely eBay would side with me. It's not a guarantee... I don't know how they handle those situations. But I figured I was probably safe. To my surprise, I got a response from the seller. It was a story about being busy while shipping, and the missing check had been found in his office after I emailed. He'd be sending a replacement check right away. Thankfully, some stories that start out as horror stories end up happily ever after. This arrived this week. . Oh, and I took another look at the seller's feedback. I had been mistaken in the way I read it, when I looked at it with my "I think I've just been ripped off" panic-eyes. The seller does have good feedback as a seller. It turns out he had made a mistake, I got my check and all is good. Since I collect things related to Wertham and Seduction of the Innocent, I love this check for a several reasons. First off, it has not only Dr. Wertham's signature, but that of his wife, Florence Hesketh as well. As I understand it, she typically went by her last name "Hesketh", to the point where that's what Wertham even called her. In his notes, she's "Hesketh," not "Florence." I've never seen her called "Florence Hesketh Wertham" until now. Second, this is sort of prime-period Wertham, shortly after his "The Comics... Very Funny" article was published in Saturday Review of Literature in 1948. This would have been issued to him while he was continuing to do the anti-comics research that would culminate in SOTI in 1954. Finally, this is payment for "Boy used on the Strange Case of Joan and John Argosy". I'm not aware that Wertham contributed anything to Argosy magazine, but it would appear that this is proof he did. The phrasing in the memo "Boy used..." makes me wonder if perhaps the magazine published a photo of one of the boys at Wertham's clinic. My hope was that I'd find an Argosy magazine from around this time period that has a story called "The Strange Case of Joan and John." An online search turned up a table of contents for each issue of Argosy, but nothing matches this description. Maybe it was a picture used to illustrate a story by a different name? Another possibility is that he was paid for a contribution but the submission was not published. I think the more common practice at the time would have been to only pay for things that had seen print, but I'm certainly no expert on the 1940's US magazine business. Anyway, that's my tale of horror and happiness from the eBay world.

I had opened it at the postal counter, but the postal clerk had turned away just as I was opening it. I had no significant reason to suspect anything was amiss until I had this empty piece of cardboard in my hand. Jaw drops. Heart sinks. The postal clerk tells me about how to go about filing a complaint. A lot runs through my mind. Is there any way this could be an innocent mistake? Did I miss some clues that this was a ripoff? I thought back to that other time I got ripped off. In that case, I feel like both the seller and eBay ripped me off. This was about ten or fifteen years ago. When the ASM #122 I bought didn't arrive, the seller gave excuses. He had mailed it. Then it came back to the seller due to his error addressing it. But he'll get me the book, yadda yadda yadda. Excuse excuse excuse. I held off on filing a claim with eBay, because I was willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I knew I could file a case with eBay, and the limit at the time was 40 days (if I recall correctly). When the book still hadn't arrived on day 40, with the seller still giving excuses, I tried to file a claim with eBay. They told me I was past the filing limit. You see, the 40 day filing limit wasn't just calendar days. It was Day+Time. So I had originally paid for the item at something like 10am, and tried to file the claim 40 days later at 6pm. Too late. Lots of griping to eBay did no good, the seller stopped responding to me, and I was out the price of one VF+ ASM 122. The only thing I got out of it was a hard lesson learned. If there's a reason to open a case, I'll never again let it get anywhere NEAR the time limit. Back to my missing check. I rushed home and looked more closely at the seller's feedback. Lots of feedback as a buyer; none as a seller. Uh oh. Red flag. It was at this point, that the "signature required" thing hit me. Of course, if somebody's trying to pull the "empty envelope" scam, they want as much proof as possible that the "item" was delivered. So the signature requirement seemed to support my belief that I had just been scammed. I couldn't fathom a legitimate seller could actually mail an empty envelope. I immediately sent an email to the seller, trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Something to the effect of "I think there's been a mistake, there was nothing in the envelope. I hope you're not trying to pull the 'empty envelope' scam." I also immediately filed a claim with eBay. ....