StuporMan

Picked this up from LCS Jesse James:

Sweet!

1. Shrunken head - lot's of em 2. Skeleton bondage (yes, that's a thing CGC) 3. GGA/bondage there too 4. Humpback with a knife You need more? Ok, Coyboy kid tarzanning on the scene!

Great issue!

Awesome set!

...and when we're talking about Venom, no one is thinking of this right? This is venom:

I'd buy that for a dollar...

I have a couple of these as well, signed in Austin before CGC existed. I laugh (but cry inside) when I see signature CoAs now... Never understood how CGC could magically appear and dictate to the hobby that no signature from before 2000 or whatever could possibly be valid. I'm not sure that's what CGC is saying. They witness a signature and it gets a yellow label. They don't witness a signature and it gets a green label that says there's unwitnessed writing on the book. I wouldn't want CGC to accept pre-2002 certificates of authenticity as proof of anything. They might be fake. We know the pre-2002 sportscard market has been hit with fake signatures by the literal ton. If CGC was going to give unwitnessed signatures a different label regardless, who cares whether it's green or puce. It still wouldn't be yellow. I think it's good that they don't go by CoA or signature matching because those could easily be faked. But what would it take for a CGC witness at a con submit a bunch of fake sigs for a buddy or payoff? I wonder if CGC takes precautions against that?

I bet there was Hemp involved with this character! Wow, they even drew the infamous "Liefeld crotch" too The gun is too small though ...

Nice info! So I wonder if the glossy is more rare, then that would probably command more coin. Do you know if CGC notes either the black logo or glossy cover variants?

Awesome! But I see now why the black wasn't used as much since it obscures the "Tales"

I was looking up some values for Startling Terror Tales in Overstreet and I noticed they have a black variant for #11 listed - "believed to be a pressrun change" <-- what does that mean? Also has anyone ever seen this for sale or from the owner? I can't even find a picture of this. The fact that Overstreet only prices it $100 over the regular version just goes to show why no one looks at Overstreet when it comes to issues like this ...

Nothing at all? I'm not sure how this is relevant to 2005, when Barns (sic) and noble DID carry newsstand Marvel titles, which is the argument. Oh, I don't know. I think it carries a little more weight. You know, what with the research and hard numbers and data and all. But what do I know? During your research did you happen upon any numbers such as how many books were destroyed at the end of each month because they were unsold? I feel that a lot of people overlook the fact that newsstand edition's are basically destroyed when the next issue is released for partial store credit whereas direct editions aren't. Newsstand editions have a shelf life, I don't think anyone actually knows how many survived from month to month. With direct editions you can go by Diamonds monthly sales list & not have to consider return numbers like newsstand editions. I doubt anyone knows the actual number of newsstand editions that survive each month, especially Chuck from Mile High considering he doesn't deal in them Good point.

Punisher was always bigger than Cable pre-movie speculation era. I think it wasn't until movie rumors that Cable really started to move. To me, Cable is one of those characters from the Marvel crossover gluttony that happened in the early 90s. Not to mention the ridiculous Leifield art...

Agreed. Venom wasn't that big of a deal until a couple years later when he started making cover appearances. I remember saying "whoa" when I saw this cover and I was hooked...

Wondering if there are any Wizard collectors out there. I've seen a few on the bay...just curious if anyone out there is hoarding some early high-grade copies

"Rich? You mean rich as Nazis?" -Abraham Simpson

It was quite a while in the ST series before the good DR made a cover appearance...see him down there at the bottom? Human Torch villian The Wizard gets more cover space! That all changed in a about a year...

Was Flash 197 mentioned in this thread?

Wow, great info! So I think Canadian editions are definitely worth holding onto. It also seems like late-Bronze age direct may be considered a variant. Late-Copper to early modern could be considered a variant?

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